All Blacks 2022
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
Pretty much puts me in the time to sack him camp.
It's actually not just about Foster either. We'd gone Henry -> Hansen and by the end of Hansen's tenure it was pretty clear the ABs needed to freshen up as the continuity thing had run its course and other teams were picking us off. That was the perfect time to bring in someone new but instead we not only went for continuity but we tried to do so under a coach with no previous record of success. Incredibly poor decision from NZ rugby.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg
Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995
67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10
If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)
nice work @Duluth which is probably why the author left that out.. interestingly though Laurie did get us to the 95 WRC final, but none of us see Fozzy doing that
@bayimports said in All Blacks 2022:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg
Probably similar to Mains then: 1992-1995
67.6% without removing the teams outside the top 10
If you do 1992-1994 (a year out from the RWC like this coaching group is) Mains percentage was 59.1% (without removing those teams outside the top 10)
nice work @Duluth which is probably why the author left that out.. interestingly though Laurie did get us to the 95 WRC final, but none of us see Fozzy doing that
I'd say the author is focusing on the professional era which is a fair point to draw the line in terms of how far back he goes. Foster is by a country mile our worst coach in that era, and it's not even close.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg
Can't upvote that.
Fully onboard with clearing out the coaches though.
If I'm honest, it's Mooar who needs to go. I honestly believe that our attack the heart of the problem. The defense sucks too, but our attack is worse.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/simongleave/status/1547534418838945792?s=21&t=uhKUKbm6dh-mBDJLw1EYgg
Can't upvote that.
Fully onboard with clearing out the coaches though.
If I'm honest, it's Mooar who needs to go. I honestly believe that our attack the heart of the problem. The defense sucks too, but our attack is worse.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Same with Plumtree really.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Same with Plumtree really.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Same with Plumtree really.
Don’t get me wrong, they’re all weak by international standards, but Mooar jumps out as a picking winners from zero form selection. Should never have been in the conversation.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Same with Plumtree really.
Don’t get me wrong, they’re all weak by international standards, but Mooar jumps out as a picking winners from zero form selection. Should never have been in the conversation.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Same with Plumtree really.
Don’t get me wrong, they’re all weak by international standards, but Mooar jumps out as a picking winners from zero form selection. Should never have been in the conversation.
Yep, only guy I can think of who "seemed" to come from nowhere over the last few years (ok probably more than a decade) was Cron, but he had the results to back him up I imagine. I have zero knowledge about Mooar's past and regularly forget he's even a coach until his name pops up on here.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.
Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.
Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.
Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.
Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.
I heard he didn’t fit into the Crusaders to well and Razor wanted to move him on.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.
Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 Schmidt fixed the Blues attack this year, an obvious solution there.
Makes the photo above even more powerful. They should never have brought him (Moaar) back, he had zero record of success.
Not saying I think he should be an assistant AB coach, but how do we know he's not good? Apart from hindsight of course. I am probably wrong, but I don't recall anyone bemoaning his appointment until someone on here said Robertson didn't rate him.
Cheers. Sort of recalled @Chris but not the others.
I heard he didn’t fit into the Crusaders to well and Razor wanted to move him on.
Although a couple of the backs did speak highly of him. -
@Tim said in All Blacks 2022:
https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1548193963995066369?s=20&t=agDskuiK27aNCDnXkKr0aQ
Will he accept the call though? Might recognise a sinking ship…
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You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.
I suppose they were “rejected” by NZ and been a raging success in Ireland. How Francis saili got selected ahead of Aki, I’ll never know. A black mark for Hansen there.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.
I suppose they were “rejected” by NZ and been a raging success in Ireland. How Francis saili got selected ahead of Aki, I’ll never know. A black mark for Hansen there.
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
You know what's irked me, seeing true blue kiwis absolutely dining out on beating their own country. I can't even greatly enjoy a win over an old club, I'll be fucked if I'm all glee and rainbows at beating the ABs.
I suppose they were “rejected” by NZ and been a raging success in Ireland. How Francis saili got selected ahead of Aki, I’ll never know. A black mark for Hansen there.
Aki never gave it a chance. Had a good season then buggered off.
Edit: to me he's the equivalent of TUJ, but he was nowhere near as good as those ahead of him.
