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  • F Frye

    @mariner4life like who? Genuine question. Has there been a NZ player who dominated the Wallabies and then failed to kick on?

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    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    @mariner4life like who? Genuine question. Has there been a NZ player who dominated the Wallabies and then failed to kick on?

    George Bridge. Played well against the Wallabies in Eden Park 2019 pre-RWC after the ABs got smashed in Perth in the earlier fixture.

    He certainly had his moments at the RWC 2019 but I wouldn't say he ever 'kicked on'.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

      @mariner4life like who? Genuine question. Has there been a NZ player who dominated the Wallabies and then failed to kick on?

      George Bridge. Played well against the Wallabies in Eden Park 2019 pre-RWC after the ABs got smashed in Perth in the earlier fixture.

      He certainly had his moments at the RWC 2019 but I wouldn't say he ever 'kicked on'.

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

      @mariner4life like who? Genuine question. Has there been a NZ player who dominated the Wallabies and then failed to kick on?

      George Bridge. Played well against the Wallabies in Eden Park 2019 pre-RWC after the ABs got smashed in Perth in the earlier fixture.

      He certainly had his moments at the RWC 2019 but I wouldn't say he ever 'kicked on'.

      Played in 2020 and 2021 ABS and had scored twice against the might of Japan as well.. Crusaders' fourth-highest try-scorer of all time to boot.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

        @mariner4life like who? Genuine question. Has there been a NZ player who dominated the Wallabies and then failed to kick on?

        George Bridge. Played well against the Wallabies in Eden Park 2019 pre-RWC after the ABs got smashed in Perth in the earlier fixture.

        He certainly had his moments at the RWC 2019 but I wouldn't say he ever 'kicked on'.

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        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

        @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

        @mariner4life like who? Genuine question. Has there been a NZ player who dominated the Wallabies and then failed to kick on?

        George Bridge. Played well against the Wallabies in Eden Park 2019 pre-RWC after the ABs got smashed in Perth in the earlier fixture.

        He certainly had his moments at the RWC 2019 but I wouldn't say he ever 'kicked on'.

        Great Crusaders wingers don't make great try scoring ABs. They can slot anyone in there and they will get scores. But most are found begging at test level. Are there even any Crusaders wingers in the AB try scoring top 5?

        Screenshot_20221012_221454.jpg

        Not even in the top 10 as of Oct 2021

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        • canefanC canefan

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

          @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

          @mariner4life like who? Genuine question. Has there been a NZ player who dominated the Wallabies and then failed to kick on?

          George Bridge. Played well against the Wallabies in Eden Park 2019 pre-RWC after the ABs got smashed in Perth in the earlier fixture.

          He certainly had his moments at the RWC 2019 but I wouldn't say he ever 'kicked on'.

          Great Crusaders wingers don't make great try scoring ABs. They can slot anyone in there and they will get scores. But most are found begging at test level. Are there even any Crusaders wingers in the AB try scoring top 5?

          Screenshot_20221012_221454.jpg

          Not even in the top 10 as of Oct 2021

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          @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

          Are there even any Crusaders wingers in the AB try scoring top 5?

          There will be soon the way Jordan is racking up tries.

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            Julian Savea's try scoring rate is incredible, was on track to be the GOAT until his form disappeared.

            Cully at FB is the most impressive though, so far ahead of any other FB it's not even funny.

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            • canefanC canefan

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

              @mariner4life like who? Genuine question. Has there been a NZ player who dominated the Wallabies and then failed to kick on?

              George Bridge. Played well against the Wallabies in Eden Park 2019 pre-RWC after the ABs got smashed in Perth in the earlier fixture.

              He certainly had his moments at the RWC 2019 but I wouldn't say he ever 'kicked on'.

              Great Crusaders wingers don't make great try scoring ABs. They can slot anyone in there and they will get scores. But most are found begging at test level. Are there even any Crusaders wingers in the AB try scoring top 5?

              Screenshot_20221012_221454.jpg

              Not even in the top 10 as of Oct 2021

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              @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

              @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

              @mariner4life like who? Genuine question. Has there been a NZ player who dominated the Wallabies and then failed to kick on?

              George Bridge. Played well against the Wallabies in Eden Park 2019 pre-RWC after the ABs got smashed in Perth in the earlier fixture.

              He certainly had his moments at the RWC 2019 but I wouldn't say he ever 'kicked on'.

              Great Crusaders wingers don't make great try scoring ABs. They can slot anyone in there and they will get scores. But most are found begging at test level. Are there even any Crusaders wingers in the AB try scoring top 5?

              Screenshot_20221012_221454.jpg

              Not even in the top 10 as of Oct 2021

              Not many Crusader wingers getting 50, 60 and 70 test matches to make that list. I know, it’s a travesty and one of the great rugby injustices.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                @mariner4life like who? Genuine question. Has there been a NZ player who dominated the Wallabies and then failed to kick on?

                George Bridge. Played well against the Wallabies in Eden Park 2019 pre-RWC after the ABs got smashed in Perth in the earlier fixture.

                He certainly had his moments at the RWC 2019 but I wouldn't say he ever 'kicked on'.

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                @KiwiMurph Bridge is a good example. He waltzed past LSL in that game to setup Smith, I don't think he's making a line break like that against the top 4(?) teams.

                But still I don't think either him or Fekitoa put in anything close to the MOTM performance that Jordie did.

                What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively. Which should finally provide more opportunities to Mounga inside and Rieko outside.

                With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

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                • F Frye

                  @KiwiMurph Bridge is a good example. He waltzed past LSL in that game to setup Smith, I don't think he's making a line break like that against the top 4(?) teams.

                  But still I don't think either him or Fekitoa put in anything close to the MOTM performance that Jordie did.

                  What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively. Which should finally provide more opportunities to Mounga inside and Rieko outside.

                  With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

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                  @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                  With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

                  Only if you look at one aspect of play. His distribution is better than Jordie's.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                    With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

                    Only if you look at one aspect of play. His distribution is better than Jordie's.

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                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                    With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

                    Only if you look at one aspect of play. His distribution is better than Jordie's.

                    So more like ‘keep an eye on who Havili passes to’

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                      With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

                      Only if you look at one aspect of play. His distribution is better than Jordie's.

                      So more like ‘keep an eye on who Havili passes to’

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                      @MN5 worked for Rieko.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                        With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

                        Only if you look at one aspect of play. His distribution is better than Jordie's.

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                        #4235

                        @Bones yeah nothing commits a defender like knowing he's gonna pass it

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                        • F Frye

                          @Bones yeah nothing commits a defender like knowing he's gonna pass it

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                          @Frye worked for Rieko.

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                            @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

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                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                              @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                              Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                                Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

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                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                                Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

                                Akira Ioane is overrated

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                                  Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

                                  Akira Ioane is overrated

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                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                  @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                                  Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

                                  Akira Ioane is overrated

                                  Someone who doesn't watch much rugby would think that.

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                                  • F Frye

                                    @KiwiMurph Bridge is a good example. He waltzed past LSL in that game to setup Smith, I don't think he's making a line break like that against the top 4(?) teams.

                                    But still I don't think either him or Fekitoa put in anything close to the MOTM performance that Jordie did.

                                    What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively. Which should finally provide more opportunities to Mounga inside and Rieko outside.

                                    With all due respect to DH, I don't think teams have been structuring their defence to be like "keep an eye on Havili"!

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                                    Victor Meldrew
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                                    #4241

                                    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                    What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                                    Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

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                                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                                      Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

                                      Akira Ioane is overrated

                                      Someone who doesn't watch much rugby would think that.

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                                      Victor Meldrew
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                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      @Bones you should really stop trying to be a funny guy and actually watch Rugby once in awhile.

                                      Did you get struck by lightning posting this?

                                      Akira Ioane is overrated

                                      Someone who doesn't watch much rugby would think that.

                                      Akira who?

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                                        Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                        What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                                        Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                                        Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                                          Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                                          Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

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                                          Victor Meldrew
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                                          #4244

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

                                          What's exciting about Barrett at 12 is that we might finally have a threat there so that opposition are actually focusing on that channel defensively

                                          Well, Australia didn't seem to buy into that theory. Be interesting to see how Jordie goes when he's actually the focus of the opposition defence.

                                          Presumably that opens up opportunities for others - especially with Jordie's offloading and passing ability.

                                          Only if the opposition allow him to off-load and pass as easily as the Oz defence did.

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