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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @Crucial Yes very good point about injuries. If injuries strike the locks (or they decide to take 4 locks) someone like Josh Lord could potentially force their way in to the AB squad.

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    @KiwiMurph have to think Lord has inside running given he has been part of thier plans and they don't often drop people due to an injury.

    Hopefully another lock emerges and pushes everyone on, similarly loosies, the likes of Grace, MMT, Robinson, Flanders, Christie, PGS, Lakai (plus a few other names i expect) will all be pushing the encumbants, as will Blackadder who no doubt has an inside running to overtake one of Ioane or Frizzell...def some options out there, but injury could give someone a shot, and make them a legend in a RWC year, NMS styles... 😉

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      These coaches love Frizell. He usually looks good in Super too so I can’t see him being dropped.

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        ESPN has published a series of team previews for the 2023 season:

        https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35656265/super-rugby-pacific-2023-previewing-blues-brumbies-chiefs-crusaders

        https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35697581/super-rugby-pacific-preview-drua-force-highlanders-hurricanes

        https://www.espn.com.au/rugby/story/_/id/35699062/super-rugby-pacific-preview-melbourne-rebels-moana-pasifika-nsw-waratahs-queensland-reds

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          To cut to the chase in those articles..

          FINAL PREDICTIONS
          Crusaders
          Chiefs
          Blues
          Waratahs
          Brumbies
          Hurricanes
          Reds
          Force
          Highlanders
          Drua
          Moana Pasifika
          Melbourne Rebels

          Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            To cut to the chase in those articles..

            FINAL PREDICTIONS
            Crusaders
            Chiefs
            Blues
            Waratahs
            Brumbies
            Hurricanes
            Reds
            Force
            Highlanders
            Drua
            Moana Pasifika
            Melbourne Rebels

            Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

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            @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

            eat to offer hope

            This is a charity I can get behind. Where do I sign up?

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              Drua too low

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                To cut to the chase in those articles..

                FINAL PREDICTIONS
                Crusaders
                Chiefs
                Blues
                Waratahs
                Brumbies
                Hurricanes
                Reds
                Force
                Highlanders
                Drua
                Moana Pasifika
                Melbourne Rebels

                Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

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                #464

                @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                To cut to the chase in those articles..

                FINAL PREDICTIONS
                Crusaders
                Chiefs
                Blues
                Waratahs
                Brumbies
                Hurricanes
                Reds
                Force
                Highlanders
                Drua
                Moana Pasifika
                Melbourne Rebels

                Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

                Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

                These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  To cut to the chase in those articles..

                  FINAL PREDICTIONS
                  Crusaders
                  Chiefs
                  Blues
                  Waratahs
                  Brumbies
                  Hurricanes
                  Reds
                  Force
                  Highlanders
                  Drua
                  Moana Pasifika
                  Melbourne Rebels

                  Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

                  Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

                  These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

                  374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

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                  @Canes4life Yep I with you , I reckon Waratahs will be top Aus team this year, may duke it out with Brumbies for that crown, but think they may beat them.

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                    I don't know if Brumbies 2023 will necessarily be as good as the 2022 version. Coaching change, a few personnel losses.....
                    Could be better, who knows. Just wouldn't take last year as the indication.
                    Likewise Tahs.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      Drua too low

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                      @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      Drua too low

                      I agree. Just had a closer look and they have 6 home games this year. No one gets off easy playing in Fiji and three of those games are quite winnable for them (Rebels, MP, Reds)

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        To cut to the chase in those articles..

                        FINAL PREDICTIONS
                        Crusaders
                        Chiefs
                        Blues
                        Waratahs
                        Brumbies
                        Hurricanes
                        Reds
                        Force
                        Highlanders
                        Drua
                        Moana Pasifika
                        Melbourne Rebels

                        Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

                        Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

                        These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

                        374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

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                        @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

                        To cut to the chase in those articles..

                        FINAL PREDICTIONS
                        Crusaders
                        Chiefs
                        Blues
                        Waratahs
                        Brumbies
                        Hurricanes
                        Reds
                        Force
                        Highlanders
                        Drua
                        Moana Pasifika
                        Melbourne Rebels

                        Not so convinced on that order. Force are way too high and I am guessing Canes are mid pack because they eat to offer hope to Tahs and Brumbies.

                        Canes below Waratahs, yeah right. I also saw a prediction ladder with the Canes fourth and the Blues first, so who really knows. I feel injuries, along with the load management of players is going to play a big part in how teams end up. Depth is key.

                        These TAB odds are about right apart from the Drua being that high, plus I would swap Reds and Tahs.

                        374bb02c-1070-4e0d-bdda-8af6df17bddb-image.png

                        Interesting looking at the odds of the Brumbies. I know Bernie wants them to play a more entertaining game to help bring back the crowds. They're also spending more time in community engagement to help drive interest, including actually sending out name players to schools etc. rather than extended squad players no one has heard of.

                        The problem is the perennial one in Australian sport - you need to be winning.

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                          After a few months of neglect the TSF website is regularly updated again. So just a reminder that all the team sheets are available here

                          https://thesilverfern.com/teamsheets/

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            After a few months of neglect the TSF website is regularly updated again. So just a reminder that all the team sheets are available here

                            https://thesilverfern.com/teamsheets/

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                            @Duluth I'm happy to add the Aupiki teams. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @Duluth I'm happy to add the Aupiki teams. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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                              @Stargazer

                              Probably next week. Still tweaking a few things.. I'll set them up as teams and then you can update the team sheets & highlights etc

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                                https://twitter.com/SuperRugbyNZ/status/1628526477057867776

                                Bigger:

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                                  #473

                                  My prediction for the NZ sides

                                  Crusaders to top the round robin and win it overall. I just hope they at least don't win every game and give the other teams hope at times. But they're just too strong with a great head coach and too much depth. Another boring outcome if I'm right
                                  Chiefs and Blues to fight it out for the 2nd NZ team with Chiefs just coming out on top.
                                  Hurricanes to finish 4th. I always hope for more but realistically the team has some great players but not enough and don't think they've got a hope of finishing higher than the other three. I hope I'm wrong though and in the new training Centre they develop players to go all the way
                                  Highlanders 5th.
                                  MP 6th. They will do well to match last year.

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                                    How good

                                    https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                                      How good

                                      https://www.instagram.com/p/Co_omAePODe/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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                                      @Canes4life

                                      Might be one less after tonight. Bit worried about Grace with that shoulder.

                                      However, the Chiefs have a few back-up 6s as well.

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                                        I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                                        I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

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                                        • chimoausC chimoaus

                                          I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                                          I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

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                                          @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                          I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

                                          I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

                                          And one of takeaways I got from the speeding up of lineouts in particular is I think we find them being simplfied a bit, no huddles, and I thought more the Hookers haven't got a long to set themselves? Samisoni missed a couple of throws by a fair bit where I got impression he was still getting breath.
                                          Very good for game I thought.

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