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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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    No Quarter
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    It's all been said but holy crap the two posters trying to claim ST hasn't been effective in the minutes he's played this series, I don't think I could possibly overstate how much better he is than Taylor in every single facet of the game.

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    • FrankF Frank

      @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      We are complaining that our gameplan seems to rely on individual brilliance but then have two 10s that have always played that way.

      I wonder if Perofeta, Zarn Sullivan or even David Havili might be better in those spots post World Cup.

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      @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      We are complaining that our gameplan seems to rely on individual brilliance but then have two 10s that have always played that way.

      I wonder if Perofeta, Zarn Sullivan or even David Havili might be better in those spots post World Cup.

      Nope. I don't see a game manager anywhere there.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        We are complaining that our gameplan seems to rely on individual brilliance but then have two 10s that have always played that way.

        I wonder if Perofeta, Zarn Sullivan or even David Havili might be better in those spots post World Cup.

        Nope. I don't see a game manager anywhere there.

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        @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        We are complaining that our gameplan seems to rely on individual brilliance but then have two 10s that have always played that way.

        I wonder if Perofeta, Zarn Sullivan or even David Havili might be better in those spots post World Cup.

        Nope. I don't see a game manager anywhere there.

        From fullback Zarn certainly managed the first Maori Irish game with his boot

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @Frank said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

          We are complaining that our gameplan seems to rely on individual brilliance but then have two 10s that have always played that way.

          I wonder if Perofeta, Zarn Sullivan or even David Havili might be better in those spots post World Cup.

          Nope. I don't see a game manager anywhere there.

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          @Crucial Sullivan definitely has the potential. He needs time at 10.

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          • K kev

            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

            ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

            If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

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            @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

            ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

            If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

            I can (sadly) report that I watched every single one of RTS’s Warriors games. Yes I am tragic.

            I think he reads the play well and is actually a better tackler when he goes low which is better for rugby as a 2nd 5 than a league fullback.

            I’m interested in what the strategy is for his injection into the match. Barring injuries, when do they want him to come on.

            Sometimes the big games need the big call 😉

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @bayimports actually that's a good point about the bench

              if we have two guys that will probably play 80 in the loosies why two on the bench? One lock will sit down, and SB will shift. who else goes?

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              @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

              @bayimports actually that's a good point about the bench

              if we have two guys that will probably play 80 in the loosies why two on the bench? One lock will sit down, and SB will shift. who else goes?

              In game one Cane subbed off didn't he?

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                1. Andrew Porter (Leinster/UCD) 45 caps
                2. Dan Sheehan (Leinster/Lansdowne) 9 caps
                3. Tadhg Furlong (Leinster/Clontarf) 59 caps
                4. Tadhg Beirne (Munster/Lansdowne) 32 caps
                5. James Ryan (Leinster/UCD) 45 caps
                6. Peter O'Mahony (Munster/Cork Constitution) 86 caps
                7. Josh van der Flier (Leinster/UCD) 42 caps
                8. Caelan Doris (Leinster/St Mary's College) 19 caps
                9. Jamison Gibson Park (Leinster) 19 caps
                10. Johnny Sexton (Leinster/St Mary's College) 107 caps CAPTAIN
                11. James Lowe (Leinster) 14 caps
                12. Bundee Aki (Connacht/Galwegians) 39 caps
                13. Robbie Henshaw (Leinster/Buccaneers) 59 caps
                14. Mack Hansen (Connacht) 5 caps
                15. Hugo Keenan (Leinster/UCD) 22 caps

                Reserves:

                1. Rob Herring (Ulster/Ballynahinch) 27 caps
                2. Cian Healy (Leinster/Clontarf) 117 caps
                3. Finlay Bealham (Connacht/Buccaneers) 24 caps
                4. Kieran Treadwell (Ulster/Ballymena) 7 caps
                5. Jack Conan (Leinster/Old Belvedere) 29 caps
                6. Conor Murray (Munster/Garryowen) 98 caps
                7. Joey Carbery (Munster/Clontarf) 34 caps
                8. Keith Earls (Munster/Young Munster) 97 caps
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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @Crucial Sullivan definitely has the potential. He needs time at 10.

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                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                  @Crucial Sullivan definitely has the potential. He needs time at 10.

                  Yep, of the names mentioned he is a possibility. Pity he isn't playing 10 though and is unlikely to if he stays at the Blues.

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                    ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                    If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

                    I can (sadly) report that I watched every single one of RTS’s Warriors games. Yes I am tragic.

                    I think he reads the play well and is actually a better tackler when he goes low which is better for rugby as a 2nd 5 than a league fullback.

                    I’m interested in what the strategy is for his injection into the match. Barring injuries, when do they want him to come on.

                    Sometimes the big games need the big call 😉

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                    @ACT-Crusader yeah he is a great player. The skill set for rugby is different. Just think he is being rushed.

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                    • JCJ JC

                      @kev But who is he intended to sub for do you think? Haven’t seen much to suggest he’s an international standard centre to sub Reiko, and if he subs Havili has he got a decent positional kicking game?

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                      @JC said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                      @kev But who is he intended to sub for do you think? Haven’t seen much to suggest he’s an international standard centre to sub Reiko, and if he subs Havili has he got a decent positional kicking game?

                      At this point he is only a 2nd five who can’t kick.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                        @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                        Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                        and coached
                        and served on the committee for a decade

                        but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

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                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                        @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                        Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                        and coached
                        and served on the committee for a decade

                        but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                        I think it’s hard to take you seriously when you have a profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

                        I’ll pile in on the ST WTF? Aside from that, and it’s a big one - not like Taylor or Coles need more games, the 23 pretty much as I’d guess. I was sure RTS would get one go, the only thing is Sotutu, but the desire for BBSB 🙄 in at 6 meant that would be the case

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                          The Irish team listed like that just reiterates that they already have a ready-made provincial combination with Leinster. Put Ringrose back in, and the influence is even greater in the starting XV. Back to the Cantablacks of Mitchell and Deans.

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                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                            Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                            and coached
                            and served on the committee for a decade

                            but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                            I think it’s hard to take you seriously when you have a profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

                            I’ll pile in on the ST WTF? Aside from that, and it’s a big one - not like Taylor or Coles need more games, the 23 pretty much as I’d guess. I was sure RTS would get one go, the only thing is Sotutu, but the desire for BBSB 🙄 in at 6 meant that would be the case

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                            @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                            profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

                            I'm Rick James bitch!

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                              profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

                              I'm Rick James bitch!

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                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                              @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                              profile pic that appears to be President Camacho!

                              I'm Rick James bitch!

                              Haha I know but I always think

                              https://i.etsystatic.com/11329076/r/il/ab4f16/3536552629/il_1588xN.3536552629_eysr.jpg

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                                Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                                and coached
                                and served on the committee for a decade

                                but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

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                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                                Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                                and coached
                                and served on the committee for a decade

                                but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                                didn't realise that, which club?

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                                  NZ TAB odds:

                                  NZ $1.25
                                  IRE $4.00
                                  Draw $21.00

                                  9 point spread.

                                  https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/event/1486520/rugby-union/international/international-matches/new-zealand-v-ireland

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    you should get down to club rugby and stand on sidelines in rain etc, gives you appreciation of what rugby is in real world.

                                    lol fuck off

                                    no nerve touched, i just wonder why people like you even come here?

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    you should get down to club rugby and stand on sidelines in rain etc, gives you appreciation of what rugby is in real world.

                                    lol fuck off

                                    no nerve touched, i just wonder why people like you even come here?

                                    Because I enjoy the sensible discussion about rugby when it's here. And although I not very good at getting across what I want and may seem harsh and everything , but I love the game and generally like talking to rugby people.
                                    Mind you I will add of all the people who I know from rugby etc I am probably only one dumb enough to come into these forums lol, so perhaps that says something huh?

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                                      Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                                      and coached
                                      and served on the committee for a decade

                                      but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

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                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                                      Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                                      and coached
                                      and served on the committee for a decade

                                      but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                                      again I say who ever said that about you? As I say abit defensive there sunshine. lol
                                      Seems I said I don't like the idea that we don't give due respect and kudos to Ireland (and othet teams) and that got you upset etc, so with all due respect to you if that upsets you I think it says more about you than me. I will just carry on just the same thanks.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        NZ TAB odds:

                                        NZ $1.25
                                        IRE $4.00
                                        Draw $21.00

                                        9 point spread.

                                        https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/event/1486520/rugby-union/international/international-matches/new-zealand-v-ireland

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                                        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        NZ TAB odds:

                                        NZ $1.25
                                        IRE $4.00
                                        Draw $21.00

                                        9 point spread.

                                        https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/event/1486520/rugby-union/international/international-matches/new-zealand-v-ireland

                                        Well there seems to be a few people on TSF picking the AB's to lose

                                        Time for them to make same easy money. Bet big on Ireland. Post receipts.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                                          Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                                          and coached
                                          and served on the committee for a decade

                                          but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                                          Must be the impression you give 🙂

                                          no, that impression of being a bombastic know-it-all but with little clue is actually real, but not because i have no clubland links

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                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @Dan54 Mariner4Life's username is based on the club he played for ...

                                          Your "only real rugby fan" act is getting rather tired.

                                          and coached
                                          and served on the committee for a decade

                                          but yeah, just a TV guy with no clue.

                                          Must be the impression you give 🙂

                                          no, that impression of being a bombastic know-it-all but with little clue is actually real, but not because i have no clubland links

                                          But someone who can only answer any criticism with insults , and not even at you , but as you were mate.

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