All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship
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@broughie I thought he went pretty well. Of course, if they play him at 6 there's a question of who they partner with Whitelock.
The Jaaps will probably have big Pieter-Steph at blindside and we have to be aware of that.
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Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.
But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.
My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6
so you starting SW and PT?
Not sure playing SB at 6 helps combat the Boks physicality of you push PT to lock, Vaai is an option, but for me you play SB at lock, and Akira at 6.
But will be interesting to see how Ryan plays it, especially with his familiarity with CT, SW & SB...maybe he might get some fire out of Taylor?
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On the midfield size thing in regards stopping Kerevi, I don’t actually think JBs height helps him in that respect. I think one of the more compact players have a better chance of knocking him back. Sammy T never had a problem knocking big guys over and he was a midget.
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On the midfield size thing in regards stopping Kerevi, I don’t actually think JBs height helps him in that respect. I think one of the more compact players have a better chance of knocking him back. Sammy T never had a problem knocking big guys over and he was a midget.
@Nepia said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
On the midfield size thing in regards stopping Kerevi, I don’t actually think JBs height helps him in that respect. I think one of the more compact players have a better chance of knocking him back. Sammy T never had a problem knocking big guys over and he was a midget.
Jordie may well be 105kg but it’s less impressive when you’re about 25 feet tall.
His nickname is Udon, not Arnie.
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Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.
But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.
My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.
But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.
My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.
FFS the last time they did that was 2019. It doesn’t work. SB ain’t a 6 and as I keep saying for all the Fern hype around him in the Irish series he missed a number of tackles, turned over ball, and is still the AB most likely to have a brain fart.
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Personally, I think if they don’t give the 6 jersey to Akira here, then he's never going to be seen as the option and may as well not be picked. If they don't trust him to back up after Ireland and play well in SA, I can't see how he is going to get chances to go deep at a WC.
I'm really intrigued about how Ryan will influence the selection of the forwards, he may not be a selector but he should be a/then main voice for selecting the forwards in the 23 (based on the game plan as decided by the coaches and leadership group).
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
I'd be shocked if they were to pick the failed Frizzel ahead of him
unfortunately i would not
me neither, i would almost put money on friz starting
The woman beater/coward punch thrower didn't make the original squad. I don't think he's leap frogged a bunch of people. He's the replacement for the dropped PGS
@Duluth said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
I'd be shocked if they were to pick the failed Frizzel ahead of him
unfortunately i would not
me neither, i would almost put money on friz starting
The woman beater/coward punch thrower didn't make the original squad. I don't think he's leap frogged a bunch of people. He's the replacement for the dropped PGS
Wasn't he unavailable through injury (or not fully fit)? Only came off the bench in the quarter-final after 8 weeks off.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
I'd be shocked if they were to pick the failed Frizzel ahead of him
unfortunately i would not
me neither, i would almost put money on friz starting
The woman beater/coward punch thrower didn't make the original squad. I don't think he's leap frogged a bunch of people. He's the replacement for the dropped PGS
Wasn't he unavailable through injury (or not fully fit)? Only came off the bench in the quarter-final after 8 weeks off.
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@Crucial he did have an injury earlier in the season but was supposably back fully fit by the time the squad was selected
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Crucial he did have an injury earlier in the season but was supposably back fully fit by the time the squad was selected
Yeah, came back via the bench in the last game as mentioned. Given the quick turnaround before the squad announcement maybe he didn't warrant the risk of going in cold. ABs fitness requirements would likely have been tougher than Highlanders injury impacted team as well. Might have been told to produce the numbers (like DeGroot)
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Akira has been one of the shining lights of the ABs recently. He was instrumental in getting us back in the game against the French last year - he, ST and SB starting hitting it up close in and got us awesome go forward. For me he's the incumbent 6, and I'd be shocked if they were to pick the failed Frizzel ahead of him. I'd say they see Frizzel as someone who technically has similar physical attributes to Akira (though has never shown it at test level) so could cover in case of injury.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Akira has been one of the shining lights of the ABs recently. He was instrumental in getting us back in the game against the French last year - he, ST and SB starting hitting it up close in and got us awesome go forward. For me he's the incumbent 6, and I'd be shocked if they were to pick the failed Frizzel ahead of him. I'd say they see Frizzel as someone who technically has similar physical attributes to Akira (though has never shown it at test level) so could cover in case of injury.
The same coaching masterminds that decided Samisoni could miss the deciding test of the series against Ireland to give all the hookers a run like they were handing out participation medals?
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Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.
But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.
My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.
But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.
My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.
I hope Ryan picks his forwards. It might mean more Crusaders but then if they get dominated no excuses.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Crucial he did have an injury earlier in the season but was supposably back fully fit by the time the squad was selected
Yeah, came back via the bench in the last game as mentioned. Given the quick turnaround before the squad announcement maybe he didn't warrant the risk of going in cold. ABs fitness requirements would likely have been tougher than Highlanders injury impacted team as well. Might have been told to produce the numbers (like DeGroot)
@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Crucial he did have an injury earlier in the season but was supposably back fully fit by the time the squad was selected
Yeah, came back via the bench in the last game as mentioned. Given the quick turnaround before the squad announcement maybe he didn't warrant the risk of going in cold. ABs fitness requirements would likely have been tougher than Highlanders injury impacted team as well. Might have been told to produce the numbers (like DeGroot)
Yep - and you wonder what rugby he's been playing since. He was slated to play half a game in the Mako pre-season vs Canterbury. May have played a couple of club games.
I'd be surprised to see him in the 6 jersey. Less surprised to see him on the bench.
We are going to need to solve our lineout wobbles from the previous match though.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Crucial he did have an injury earlier in the season but was supposably back fully fit by the time the squad was selected
Yeah, came back via the bench in the last game as mentioned. Given the quick turnaround before the squad announcement maybe he didn't warrant the risk of going in cold. ABs fitness requirements would likely have been tougher than Highlanders injury impacted team as well. Might have been told to produce the numbers (like DeGroot)
Yep - and you wonder what rugby he's been playing since. He was slated to play half a game in the Mako pre-season vs Canterbury. May have played a couple of club games.
I'd be surprised to see him in the 6 jersey. Less surprised to see him on the bench.
We are going to need to solve our lineout wobbles from the previous match though.
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@Chris-B Well one option would be playing our best lock at lock, not six. And using Akira at the front instead of midget Savea (something he's done plenty for the Blues).
@Kirwan I'm only suggesting that it won't surprise me to see Scott at 6 - largely to combat the Bok lineout. If Retallick were available, I'd think it quite likely. I certainly think it's more likely than Frizell at 6.
Most likely though, they'll stick with Akira.
Even if we play Barrett there (and Vaai at lock), we are going to be giving away height to each of the three tallest Boks, so we've got challenges. And I'm sure our lineout problems won't have escaped the Bok coaches.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.
But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.
My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.
FFS the last time they did that was 2019. It doesn’t work. SB ain’t a 6 and as I keep saying for all the Fern hype around him in the Irish series he missed a number of tackles, turned over ball, and is still the AB most likely to have a brain fart.
@Nepia said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.
But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.
My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.
FFS the last time they did that was 2019. It doesn’t work. SB ain’t a 6 and as I keep saying for all the Fern hype around him in the Irish series he missed a number of tackles, turned over ball, and is still the AB most likely to have a brain fart.
Scott has been known to give away the odd penalty - but, he's certain to be playing regardless of the number on his back. Maybe playing at 6 he's out in the fresh air a bit more, get a bit more oxygen to his brain, stop the red mist descending?
Actually, if you watch that 2019 half, Scott was pretty good - one of our best - apart from an obligatory dumb penalty on the 40th minute.
Among other things he made this amazing run to cut off Jonny May that I posted a few weeks back as well.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=428450447862358
Kept us in the match and you have to admit that Sam's stumpy little Reparoa legs would never have got across. Scott's run took years of specialized training at his Rahotu hacienda. As he set off, his mother's words would have been ringing in his ears.
"Come on, Scott. You can run fast too. Smash that little bastard into the rose garden!!!"
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.
But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.
My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.
I hope Ryan picks his forwards. It might mean more Crusaders but then if they get dominated no excuses.
@Winger there are only 5 in the pack to choose from aren't there?
3 probably guaranteed a start (SB, SW, GB), one probably will (CT) as he had done so before Ryan came in and the 5th might come off the bench.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.
But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.
My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.
FFS the last time they did that was 2019. It doesn’t work. SB ain’t a 6 and as I keep saying for all the Fern hype around him in the Irish series he missed a number of tackles, turned over ball, and is still the AB most likely to have a brain fart.
Scott has been known to give away the odd penalty - but, he's certain to be playing regardless of the number on his back. Maybe playing at 6 he's out in the fresh air a bit more, get a bit more oxygen to his brain, stop the red mist descending?
Actually, if you watch that 2019 half, Scott was pretty good - one of our best - apart from an obligatory dumb penalty on the 40th minute.
Among other things he made this amazing run to cut off Jonny May that I posted a few weeks back as well.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=428450447862358
Kept us in the match and you have to admit that Sam's stumpy little Reparoa legs would never have got across. Scott's run took years of specialized training at his Rahotu hacienda. As he set off, his mother's words would have been ringing in his ears.
"Come on, Scott. You can run fast too. Smash that little bastard into the rose garden!!!"
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Nepia said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.
But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.
My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.
FFS the last time they did that was 2019. It doesn’t work. SB ain’t a 6 and as I keep saying for all the Fern hype around him in the Irish series he missed a number of tackles, turned over ball, and is still the AB most likely to have a brain fart.
Scott has been known to give away the odd penalty - but, he's certain to be playing regardless of the number on his back. Maybe playing at 6 he's out in the fresh air a bit more, get a bit more oxygen to his brain, stop the red mist descending?
Actually, if you watch that 2019 half, Scott was pretty good - one of our best - apart from an obligatory dumb penalty on the 40th minute.
Among other things he made this amazing run to cut off Jonny May that I posted a few weeks back as well.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=428450447862358
Kept us in the match and you have to admit that Sam's stumpy little Reparoa legs would never have got across. Scott's run took years of specialized training at his Rahotu hacienda. As he set off, his mother's words would have been ringing in his ears.
"Come on, Scott. You can run fast too. Smash that little bastard into the rose garden!!!"
Reminiscent of Chresten Davis running down Caleb Ralph back in the NPC of 01.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Nepia said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Wouldn't surprise me to see Scott Barrett at 6. They will be worried about countering the Bok's size and physicality.
But, it's a difficult team to predict, because this will be Ryan's forward pack, rather than Plumtree's - and there's questions about whether they "give the boys another chance to put things right", or there's a significant change of tack.
My guess is the former, but a clear loss would surely necessitate a significant change of course.
FFS the last time they did that was 2019. It doesn’t work. SB ain’t a 6 and as I keep saying for all the Fern hype around him in the Irish series he missed a number of tackles, turned over ball, and is still the AB most likely to have a brain fart.
Scott has been known to give away the odd penalty - but, he's certain to be playing regardless of the number on his back. Maybe playing at 6 he's out in the fresh air a bit more, get a bit more oxygen to his brain, stop the red mist descending?
Actually, if you watch that 2019 half, Scott was pretty good - one of our best - apart from an obligatory dumb penalty on the 40th minute.
Among other things he made this amazing run to cut off Jonny May that I posted a few weeks back as well.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=428450447862358
Kept us in the match and you have to admit that Sam's stumpy little Reparoa legs would never have got across. Scott's run took years of specialized training at his Rahotu hacienda. As he set off, his mother's words would have been ringing in his ears.
"Come on, Scott. You can run fast too. Smash that little bastard into the rose garden!!!"
Reminiscent of Chresten Davis running down Caleb Ralph back in the NPC of 01.
