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Best players in SR this week

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  • C cgrant

    A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
    Mine :
    De Groot
    Taukei'aho
    Lomax
    Retallick
    ?
    Finau
    Papali'i
    Sotutu
    Weber/Roigard
    MacKenzie
    Fainganu'uku
    T. Umaga Jensen
    Aumua
    Narawa/Telea
    Stephenson

    I could not find a lock to partner BBBR : Whitelock has been sidelined for weeks and Vai'i goes missing sometimes. It's the same with PPP. Maybe the most constant in his performances is Cameron Suafua but he is not a standout either. Bird has been good in his outings but he is not even considered as a starter at the Canes. So who ? Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock) ? Barrett (pretty anonymous so far) ?
    I could not make a choice between Roigard and Weber. The latter is slightly in front because of a bad Roigard's performance from the bench. The same for Telea and Narawa. Both have been outstanding so far.

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    @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

    Gardiner (he's just a stop gap in the Crusaders team as he is more a 6 than a lock)

    He still has been really good the last 3 weeks playing out of position,So should be considered.

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      I'm not surprised Jordie was poor on the weekend. He was in between Morgan and a centre who hadn't played rugby in 6 months.

      There's plenty of ABs playing well despite not being in form team of the competition; Cane, Weber, Smith, Ennor, Clarke etc.

      The likes of Akira and Jordan should be back playing soon (this week?) which will help.

      I'm hoping with Rieko's contract issue now behind him his game will flow.

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        @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

        A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
        Mine :
        De Groot
        Taukei'aho
        Lomax
        Retallick
        ?
        Finau
        Papali'i
        Sotutu
        Weber/Roigard
        MacKenzie
        Fainganu'uku
        T. Umaga Jensen
        Aumua
        Narawa/Telea
        Stephenson

        Only one Crusaders player, more Highlanders even, surprisingly.

        How come these form teams, or 'team/s of week' rarely ever feature more than a couple of Crusaders while the same people claim a certain coach gets all the best players when he ends up doing yet another headspin around the super rugby trophy.

        An interesting dichotomy.

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        • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

          @cgrant said in Best players in SR this week:

          A bit off topic but what would be your form team so far (eligible NZ players only) ?
          Mine :
          De Groot
          Taukei'aho
          Lomax
          Retallick
          ?
          Finau
          Papali'i
          Sotutu
          Weber/Roigard
          MacKenzie
          Fainganu'uku
          T. Umaga Jensen
          Aumua
          Narawa/Telea
          Stephenson

          Only one Crusaders player, more Highlanders even, surprisingly.

          How come these form teams, or 'team/s of week' rarely ever feature more than a couple of Crusaders while the same people claim a certain coach gets all the best players when he ends up doing yet another headspin around the super rugby trophy.

          An interesting dichotomy.

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          @kiwi_expat is this just a vibe you have or have you actually checked? i feel there are times lots of crusaders would make these teams in the past

          edit: picked the super round at random and there are 5 crusaders

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131411652/super-rugby-team-of-the-week-richie-mounga-bounces-back-as-beauden-barrett-struggles

          random week from last year, 7 crusaders

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128209119/moana-pasifika-hitman-henry-timestowers-a-highlight-of-super-rugby-team-of-the-week

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @kiwi_expat is this just a vibe you have or have you actually checked? i feel there are times lots of crusaders would make these teams in the past

              edit: picked the super round at random and there are 5 crusaders

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/131411652/super-rugby-team-of-the-week-richie-mounga-bounces-back-as-beauden-barrett-struggles

              random week from last year, 7 crusaders

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/128209119/moana-pasifika-hitman-henry-timestowers-a-highlight-of-super-rugby-team-of-the-week

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              @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

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                @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

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                @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

                Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

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                  There was a similar claim this time last year that Crusaders players aren’t rated on TSF so I ran a poll asking how many Crusaders would make their AB 23 (not a prediction of what the selectors would pick)

                  There is no such thing as a TSF consensus but most people had loads of Crusaders in their 23

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                    @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

                    Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in Best players in SR this week:

                    @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                    @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

                    Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

                    also Mo'unga, Jordan and SBarrett normally walk in to these teams, and one hasn't played, the other two are not the form players

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                      A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                      Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                      Crusaders have not exactly produced the influential 'core' of this All Black team have they?

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                        @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

                        Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

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                        @KiwiMurph said in Best players in SR this week:

                        @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                        @Kiwiwomble Nope, was referring to the sentiment on here, as I quoted a ferner's team in my post...

                        Crusaders having a lot of injuries this season adds to it a lot.

                        They didn't play this weekend did they? They're doing well if they got players in the team.

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                        • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                          A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                          Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                          Crusaders have not exactly produced the influential 'core' of this All Black team have they?

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                          @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                          A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                          Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                          I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

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                            @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                            A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                            Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                            I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

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                            @Chris said in Best players in SR this week:

                            @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                            A possible World Cup squad, with the most important unselected players in bold.

                            Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                            I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

                            Fixed it.

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                              @Chris said in Best players in SR this week:

                              @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                              A possible World Cup squad, with the most important unselected players in bold.

                              Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                              I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

                              Fixed it.

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                              @Bones said in Best players in SR this week:

                              @Chris said in Best players in SR this week:

                              @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                              A possible World Cup squad, with the most important unselected players in bold.

                              Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                              I reckon that 33 is a way off what Foster and co will actually select.

                              Fixed it.

                              I think that is exactly what may happen plus no Ross.

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                                Would be pretty hilarious if Foster takes 3 non-running halfbacks. Christie doesn't offer any point of difference. Roigard and Ratima offer a running threat that non of Smith, Weber, Christie, can bring.

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                                  Would be pretty hilarious if Foster takes 3 non-running halfbacks. Christie doesn't offer any point of difference. Roigard and Ratima offer a running threat that non of Smith, Weber, Christie, can bring.

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                                  @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                                  Would be pretty hilarious if Foster takes 3 non-running halfbacks. Christie doesn't offer any point of difference. Roigard and Ratima offer a running threat that non of Smith, Weber, Christie, can bring.

                                  We're watching a different Weber

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                                    I think this gives a fair indication of where the top talent is coming from - Chiefs, Blues, Hurricanes.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300856461/all-blacks-barometer-whos-in-the-33man-squad-ahead-of-the-world-cup-in-france

                                    Chiefs, Blues, Canes have formed our All Black's best sides in recent seasons & that is set to continue.

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                                      I think this gives a fair indication of where the top talent is coming from - Chiefs, Blues, Hurricanes.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300856461/all-blacks-barometer-whos-in-the-33man-squad-ahead-of-the-world-cup-in-france

                                      Chiefs, Blues, Canes have formed our All Black's best sides in recent seasons & that is set to continue.

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                                      @kiwi_expat Comedy gold.

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                                        A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                                        Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                                        Crusaders have not exactly produced the influential 'core' of this All Black team have they?

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                                        @kiwi_expat said in Best players in SR this week:

                                        A possible World Cup squad, with the most important players in bold.

                                        Rettalick, Va'ai, Whitelock, Savea, Papali'i, R.Ioane, De Groot, Tu'ungafasi, Laulala, Ross, S.Barrett, Clarke, Stevenson, Telea, Fainganu'uku, Lomax, A.Smith, Roigard, Weber, J.Barrett, Taukei'aho, McKenzie, B.Barrett, Mo'unga, Cane, Aumua, Taylor, Jacobson, ALB, Tuipulotu, TUJ, Sotutu, A.Ioane.

                                        Crusaders have not exactly produced the influential 'core' of this All Black team have they?

                                        Can you at least put them in alphabetical order or sort them by position ?

                                        Jesus Christ Man. This is all over the shop.

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                                        • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                                          I think this gives a fair indication of where the top talent is coming from - Chiefs, Blues, Hurricanes.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300856461/all-blacks-barometer-whos-in-the-33man-squad-ahead-of-the-world-cup-in-france

                                          Chiefs, Blues, Canes have formed our All Black's best sides in recent seasons & that is set to continue.

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                                          @kiwi_expat Rayasi. The comedy starts early on in the article.

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