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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @mariner4life

    Feet under the table first few Tests, then absolutely.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life

    Feet under the table first few Tests, then absolutely.

    Okay Fozzie.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

      Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

      It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

      Since about November.

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      @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

      Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

      It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

      Since about November.

      The merits of Cane vs Papalii certainly made for some interesting reading

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        New Zealand v England
        Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
        Saturday, 6 July, 2024 Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)
        Assistant Referee 1: Nic Berry (RA)
        Assistant Referee 2: Jordan Way (RA)
        TMO: Eric Gauzins (FFR)

        New Zealand v England
        Eden Park, Auckland
        Saturday, 13 July, 2024 Referee: Nic Berry (RA)
        Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
        Assistant Referee 2: George Myers (RA)
        TMO: Brett Cronan (RA)

        New Zealand v Fiji
        Snapdragon Stadium, San Diego, CA
        Saturday, 20 July, 2024 Referee: Matthew Carley (RFU)
        Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
        Assistant Referee 2: Luke Rogan (USAR)
        TMO: Ian Tempest (RFU)

        https://www.world.rugby/the-game/high-performance/officiating/925086

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        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

          New Zealand v England
          Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
          Saturday, 6 July, 2024 Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)
          Assistant Referee 1: Nic Berry (RA)
          Assistant Referee 2: Jordan Way (RA)
          TMO: Eric Gauzins (FFR)

          New Zealand v England
          Eden Park, Auckland
          Saturday, 13 July, 2024 Referee: Nic Berry (RA)
          Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
          Assistant Referee 2: George Myers (RA)
          TMO: Brett Cronan (RA)

          New Zealand v Fiji
          Snapdragon Stadium, San Diego, CA
          Saturday, 20 July, 2024 Referee: Matthew Carley (RFU)
          Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
          Assistant Referee 2: Luke Rogan (USAR)
          TMO: Ian Tempest (RFU)

          https://www.world.rugby/the-game/high-performance/officiating/925086

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          @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          Saturday, 6 July, 2024 Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)

          One of the stars from RWC2023. Put in really good refereeing performances.

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            Good to see Taylor back considering Sami T seems off the pace and Asafo Aumua is OOA until July

            https://www.planetrugby.com/news/crusaders-boosted-as-codie-taylor-and-tamaiti-williams-return-to-action

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            • TimT Away
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              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-plots-to-bring-richie-mounga-home-early-from-japanese-sabbatical/I423W4NCG5BHHOMSLAWPHKTAZA/

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              • TimT Tim

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-plots-to-bring-richie-mounga-home-early-from-japanese-sabbatical/I423W4NCG5BHHOMSLAWPHKTAZA/

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                @Tim The Crusaders will be delighted and it's strange that he threw the towel in on his international career immediately after the season where he was finally finding his feet properly at Test level.

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                  I don't think it's strange to go overseas for 3 years on 2.2 million per, one of the highest wages in rugby. He still could be back eighteen months before RWC, if the desire is still there. The article is a bit of nothing, NZR in talks to see if they can get experienced ABs back shocker! There no inkling of a deal, just NZR want him back, rightly so. I'm sure the same happens in similar situations, with other players. Although thankfully it's rare

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                  • TimT Tim

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-plots-to-bring-richie-mounga-home-early-from-japanese-sabbatical/I423W4NCG5BHHOMSLAWPHKTAZA/

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                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-plots-to-bring-richie-mounga-home-early-from-japanese-sabbatical/I423W4NCG5BHHOMSLAWPHKTAZA/

                    By the time Mo'unga's returned, Robertson will have had at least a full season - possibly 2 - to develop options at 10. Either DMac isn't rated and the other NZ-based 10's aren't seen as worth of development or this is more fake news.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-plots-to-bring-richie-mounga-home-early-from-japanese-sabbatical/I423W4NCG5BHHOMSLAWPHKTAZA/

                      By the time Mo'unga's returned, Robertson will have had at least a full season - possibly 2 - to develop options at 10. Either DMac isn't rated and the other NZ-based 10's aren't seen as worth of development or this is more fake news.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew can't see it being fake, it didn't say NZR are offering anything apart from 'please come back' and if bbbr was also 29 and had done the same deal, they'd be saying the same thing! NZR would love all abs qualified players playing in NZ.

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                        @Victor-Meldrew can't see it being fake, it didn't say NZR are offering anything apart from 'please come back' and if bbbr was also 29 and had done the same deal, they'd be saying the same thing! NZR would love all abs qualified players playing in NZ.

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                        @Machpants

                        Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @Machpants

                          Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.

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                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Machpants

                          Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.

                          Well they're at the under 20s as we speak, I think they are being thorough. Rather than 'you've turned down the black jersey,, you're a pariah', they're actively trying to get worthwhile players back.

                          NZR 'which NZ qualified players do you want in SR?'
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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @Machpants

                            Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Machpants

                            Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.

                            You can only develop so far. If the talent isn't there, it isn't there.

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                              so is this different to Razor chasing Whitelock a month or so back?

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @Machpants

                                Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Machpants

                                Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.

                                They can do this whilst also bringing back Mo'unga. It's not mutually exclusive.

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                                  There will be a much better 10 who emerges before the next world cup.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    There will be a much better 10 who emerges before the next world cup.

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                                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    There will be a much better 10 who emerges before the next world cup.

                                    Mo'unga has a win percentage of 70% as an AB 10.

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                                      Mo'unga made it clear in interviews his biggest motivation was money (plus some platitudes about 'experiencing different a culture' etc). It's hard to imagine him opting to take a massive pay cut

                                      I think the rumours from last year are more likely to play out - Mo'unga, Frizell & Fainga'anuku all play for Tonga at the 2027 RWC

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        Mo'unga made it clear in interviews his biggest motivation was money (plus some platitudes about 'experiencing different a culture' etc). It's hard to imagine him opting to take a massive pay cut

                                        I think the rumours from last year are more likely to play out - Mo'unga, Frizell & Fainga'anuku all play for Tonga at the 2027 RWC

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                                        @Duluth I said that to people last year and people laughed at me haha.

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                                          I will be horrified if NZR offers big dollars to drag players back from overseas, given the financial state they are in, and the risk for further fall-outs. This feels like a PR beat-up to me, with various people signalling how much they value getting the biggest public names playing for the All Blacks, to help them win.
                                          I would prefer them supporting and developing those who commit to NZ rugby - but allowing players sabbaticals to extend their overall contribution to NZ rugby

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