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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

    He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

    He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

    He is very good under the high ball, too.

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    • Landers92L Landers92

      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      Probably scandalous to suggest - but I am wondering if they might pick Clarke and Reece ahead of Telea as the starting wings. I think both are playing a little better and both have test experience.

      Clarke is an out and out left winger so it’s between Tele’a, Narawa and Reece for the 14 jersey. The latter 3 can play on the left if needed but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

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      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

      Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

        Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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        @KiwiMurph

        It barely counts, but he also played 14 against Namibia at the RWC

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

          If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

          1. De Groot
          2. Taylor
          3. Lomax
          4. Barrett
          5. Tuipolotu
          6. Finau
          7. Papali'i
          8. Savea (C) 🙂
          9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
          10. McKenzie
          11. Telea
          12. Barrett
          13. Ioane
          14. Reece
          15. Love
          16. Aumua
          17. Williams
          18. Newell
          19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
          20. Sotutu
          21. Ratima
          22. Barrett
          23. Proctor

          Rest of the squad for me would be:
          24. Taukei'aho
          25. Numia
          26. Tu'ungafasi
          27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
          28. Lakai
          29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
          30. Funaki
          31. Leinert-Brown
          32. Clarke

          Squad reserves:
          33. another lock
          34. Jacobsen
          35. Plummer
          36. Stevenson

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          @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

          But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

          What team does Hotham play for again?

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

            Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

            Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

            I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

              Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

              I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

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              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

              Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

              I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

              I stand corrected. I don’t recall that at all so thanks for that info.

              Going to be interesting come selection time for sure

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                What team does Hotham play for again?

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                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                What team does Hotham play for again?

                I've got both of them in the squad. If I had to pick one to start it would be Funaki, but I like Ratima more as an impact player which is why I've got him in the 23. His running game is awesome, not saying that Funaki doesn't have a running game, I just think Ratima against tiring defences could be a real weapon for the ABs.

                Not much in it tbh, some solid options at halfback. That's why I find it annoying that Christie is still in the conversation, he clearly isn't as good as these young guys coming through. Hotham is another that I'd rather have over Christie tbh. All will be revealed soon I suppose.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                  But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                  What team does Hotham play for again?

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                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                  But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                  What team does Hotham play for again?

                  He plays for the Crusaders.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

                    If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

                    1. De Groot
                    2. Taylor
                    3. Lomax
                    4. Barrett
                    5. Tuipolotu
                    6. Finau
                    7. Papali'i
                    8. Savea (C) 🙂
                    9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
                    10. McKenzie
                    11. Telea
                    12. Barrett
                    13. Ioane
                    14. Reece
                    15. Love
                    16. Aumua
                    17. Williams
                    18. Newell
                    19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
                    20. Sotutu
                    21. Ratima
                    22. Barrett
                    23. Proctor

                    Rest of the squad for me would be:
                    24. Taukei'aho
                    25. Numia
                    26. Tu'ungafasi
                    27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
                    28. Lakai
                    29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
                    30. Funaki
                    31. Leinert-Brown
                    32. Clarke

                    Squad reserves:
                    33. another lock
                    34. Jacobsen
                    35. Plummer
                    36. Stevenson

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                    @Canes4life no Walker Leawere for me sorry. Otherwise, that looks a very strong squad

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                      But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                      What team does Hotham play for again?

                      He plays for the Crusaders.

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                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                      But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                      What team does Hotham play for again?

                      He plays for the Crusaders.

                      Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                        But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                        What team does Hotham play for again?

                        He plays for the Crusaders.

                        Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

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                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                        But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                        What team does Hotham play for again?

                        He plays for the Crusaders.

                        Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                        He has played well recently but shit, an AB based off three pretty good games? Hope not. But, and I know you said it in jest, he may well have been 'earmarked'. He was a standout in age grade so if (and it's a big if) Razor is going to select a development type player, Hotham is in with a chance.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                          But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                          What team does Hotham play for again?

                          He plays for the Crusaders.

                          Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                          A Hotham/Havili axis sounds awesome. Could be really exciting.

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                            If Razor is going to pick a development type player, it will be a Crusader

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                              If Razor is going to pick a development type player, it will be a Crusader

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                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              If Razor is going to pick a development type player, it will be a Crusader

                              Based on what evidence?

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                                You can take the coach out of Canterbury but you can't take the Canterbury out of the coach.

                                Also didn't he want Havili to play 10 as a "project". What. The. Fuck.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                                  A Hotham/Havili axis sounds awesome. Could be really exciting.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                                  A Hotham/Havili axis sounds awesome. Could be really exciting.

                                  https://giphy.com/gifs/lol-laughing-charlie-murphy-l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                                    A Hotham/Havili axis sounds awesome. Could be really exciting.

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Shitballs. Get him in there starting. He's been earmarked after all.

                                    A Hotham/Havili axis sounds awesome. Could be really exciting.

                                    Nice bait mate, very rancid

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                                      From what I saw (and I didn't see much of the first 20), Havili showed why I don't want him in the ABs. Passed poorly, lacked physicality when he took the ball to the line. Not good enough to be 10, 12, or 15

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                                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                        You can take the coach out of Canterbury but you can't take the Canterbury out of the coach.

                                        Also didn't he want Havili to play 10 as a "project". What. The. Fuck.

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                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        You can take the coach out of Canterbury but you can't take the Canterbury out of the coach.

                                        Also didn't he want Havili to play 10 as a "project". What. The. Fuck.

                                        I think wanting to take a look at Havili at 10 was reasonable. It is a position we are struggling for depth and it was before Plummer put his hand up. Now let's hope Razor has seen enough to not pick him.

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                                        • O Old Samurai Jack

                                          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          If Razor is going to pick a development type player, it will be a Crusader

                                          Based on what evidence?

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                                          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          If Razor is going to pick a development type player, it will be a Crusader

                                          Based on what evidence?

                                          His entire Super Rugby coaching career. Nothing but Crusaders.

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