All Blacks 2025
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@hikastags I did.
This is a forum. People are going to have different views and opinions.
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I am happy the big fella is back. God knows we need some troops with big bodies. I haven't watched LF play since he left, but I hope he has learnt to pass. Before he left he made Rieko look like a passing genius.
@Crazy-Horse He's done okay. I have little doubt he'll be back in the AB squad by the end of the year and challenging for a starting spot.
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Interesting to see who has been released for first round of NPC.
Narawa and Posi for BOP
Jim the Difference for Ta$man
Love for Wellington
Papali'i for Counties
Lio-Willie for Otago
ALB for Waikato
McAlister for Canterbury.Not sure if that's good or bad for the players. Though I tend to think some just may need the rugby after being used bugger all. Would seem good news for those not released though .
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Interesting to see who has been released for first round of NPC.
Narawa and Posi for BOP
Jim the Difference for Ta$man
Love for Wellington
Papali'i for Counties
Lio-Willie for Otago
ALB for Waikato
McAlister for Canterbury.Not sure if that's good or bad for the players. Though I tend to think some just may need the rugby after being used bugger all. Would seem good news for those not released though .
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Probably all been discussed already but I have been slack on the forum lately.
Latest reports are Lomax had hand surgery and will miss the 2 tests against Argentina.
Beaudy(Broken hand) and Scott Barrett(torn calf) should be on track for test 1 of the rugby championship.
Noah Hotham has had ankle surgery and will be out for up to 8 weeks.
Luke Jacobson a thigh injury and out for 5 weeks.
Sititi should be back in around 3 weeks.
Vai’i should return in 2 weeks from concussion.
Clarke likely to be out 6 weeks
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
Probably all been discussed already but I have been slack on the forum lately.
Latest reports are Lomax had hand surgery and will miss the 2 tests against Argentina.
Beaudy(Broken hand) and Scott Barrett(torn calf) should be on track for test 1 of the rugby championship.
Noah Hotham has had ankle surgery and will be out for up to 8 weeks.
Luke Jacobson a thigh injury and out for 5 weeks.
Sititi should be back in around 3 weeks.
Vai’i should return in 2 weeks from concussion.
Clarke likely to be out 6 weeks
Dunno why I upvoted that shit ...
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I am happy the big fella is back. God knows we need some troops with big bodies. I haven't watched LF play since he left, but I hope he has learnt to pass. Before he left he made Rieko look like a passing genius.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
I am happy the big fella is back. God knows we need some troops with big bodies. I haven't watched LF play since he left, but I hope he has learnt to pass. Before he left he made Rieko look like a passing genius.
Passing could improve more. Hopefully spending the last few months alongside Nonu has helped him. But his ball-carrying and breakdown work is very good. Kicking looks to have improved.
He's been spending the back quarter of some games at flanker/8 and done well.
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I like forward to seeing Super Leicester in the NPC, surely, since he made the Top14 his bitch, he will top all the relevant stats, most tries, most running metres, most rucks won, most walking on water, most turning water into wine, most tackles, most lineout wins.
Luckily the Magpies don't play Ta$man this year so I wont have the pain of seeing him run in 6 tries against us.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
I like forward to seeing Super Leicester in the NPC, surely, since he made the Top14 his bitch, he will top all the relevant stats, most tries, most running metres, most rucks won, most walking on water, most turning water into wine, most tackles, most lineout wins.
Luckily the Magpies don't play Ta$man this year so I wont have the pain of seeing him run in 6 tries against us.
Steady on. He's no Charlie Ngatai
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Interesting to see who has been released for first round of NPC.
Narawa and Posi for BOP
Jim the Difference for Ta$man
Love for Wellington
Papali'i for Counties
Lio-Willie for Otago
ALB for Waikato
McAlister for Canterbury.Not sure if that's good or bad for the players. Though I tend to think some just may need the rugby after being used bugger all. Would seem good news for those not released though .
So that leaves not released:
Forwards
Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Luke Jacobson - Injured.
Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.Backs
Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
Billy Proctor - Fit, obviously done enough to impress the coaches.
Cortes Ratima - Injured.
Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod. -
So that leaves not released:
Forwards
Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Luke Jacobson - Injured.
Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.Backs
Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
Billy Proctor - Fit, obviously done enough to impress the coaches.
Cortes Ratima - Injured.
Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
So that leaves not released:
Forwards
Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Luke Jacobson - Injured.
Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.Backs
Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
Cortes Ratima - Injured.
Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.Was Billy Proctor released? I thought it was only Love?
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
So that leaves not released:
Forwards
Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Luke Jacobson - Injured.
Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.Backs
Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
Cortes Ratima - Injured.
Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.Was Billy Proctor released? I thought it was only Love?
@Canes4life Well spotted. My bad.
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My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
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My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
Be happy with that generally, but no need to fuck with THP. Williams is the best LHP going and Tosi is more than good enough at reserve THP (where's Red Beard ...).
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
Be happy with that generally, but no need to fuck with THP. Williams is the best LHP going and Tosi is more than good enough at reserve THP (where's Red Beard ...).
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So that leaves not released:
Forwards
Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Luke Jacobson - Injured.
Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.Backs
Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
Billy Proctor - Fit, obviously done enough to impress the coaches.
Cortes Ratima - Injured.
Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
So that leaves not released:
Forwards
Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Luke Jacobson - Injured.
Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.Backs
Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
Billy Proctor - Fit, obviously done enough to impress the coaches.
Cortes Ratima - Injured.
Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.So all those who will be fit for the Pumas plus the NPC released makes 32?
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Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.
He was pants against Lions.
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My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
Flat no to Tamaiti at TH. Give him time off bench at LH.
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Wilco Louw is an old fashioned destroyer at TH for Boks. TW went exceptionally well against Malherbe, who is a tall TH. Louw is about 2 1/2 inches shorter and built, so AB LHs will have theirs hands full. In fact, for Boks games I’d probably looks for Bower to be third LH. His mauling also a significant bonus.
