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    #4464

    So, what's going on with Ethan Blackadder, David Havili and Hoskins Sotutu?

    In the coach's plans? Not in the coach's plans? Working on their impact on both sides of the ball?

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      @Dan54

      So that leaves not released:

      Forwards

      Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
      Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Luke Jacobson - Injured.
      Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
      Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
      Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
      Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
      Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
      Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
      Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.

      Backs

      Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
      Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
      Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
      Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
      Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
      Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
      Billy Proctor - Fit, obviously done enough to impress the coaches.
      Cortes Ratima - Injured.
      Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
      Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
      Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.

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      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Dan54

      So that leaves not released:

      Forwards

      Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
      Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Luke Jacobson - Injured.
      Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
      Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
      Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
      Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
      Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
      Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
      Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.

      Backs

      Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
      Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
      Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
      Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
      Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
      Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
      Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
      Cortes Ratima - Injured.
      Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
      Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
      Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.

      Was Billy Proctor released? I thought it was only Love?

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Dan54

        So that leaves not released:

        Forwards

        Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
        Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
        Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
        Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
        Luke Jacobson - Injured.
        Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
        Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
        Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
        Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
        Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
        Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
        Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
        Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
        Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
        Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
        Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.

        Backs

        Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
        Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
        Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
        Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
        Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
        Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
        Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
        Cortes Ratima - Injured.
        Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
        Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
        Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.

        Was Billy Proctor released? I thought it was only Love?

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        @Canes4life Well spotted. My bad.

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          My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.

          De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan

          Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.

            De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan

            Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.

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            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

            My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.

            De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan

            Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.

            Be happy with that generally, but no need to fuck with THP. Williams is the best LHP going and Tosi is more than good enough at reserve THP (where's Red Beard ...).

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            • boobooB booboo

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.

              De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan

              Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.

              Be happy with that generally, but no need to fuck with THP. Williams is the best LHP going and Tosi is more than good enough at reserve THP (where's Red Beard ...).

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              @booboo Only reason I did was that Tosi has been released for the NPC this weekend. But as you suggest I wouldn't read that much into that.

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              • sparkyS sparky

                @Dan54

                So that leaves not released:

                Forwards

                Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
                Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Luke Jacobson - Injured.
                Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
                Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
                Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
                Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
                Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
                Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
                Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.

                Backs

                Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
                Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
                Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
                Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
                Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
                Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
                Billy Proctor - Fit, obviously done enough to impress the coaches.
                Cortes Ratima - Injured.
                Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
                Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
                Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.

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                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Dan54

                So that leaves not released:

                Forwards

                Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
                Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Luke Jacobson - Injured.
                Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
                Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
                Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
                Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
                Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
                Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
                Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.

                Backs

                Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
                Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
                Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
                Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
                Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
                Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
                Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
                Billy Proctor - Fit, obviously done enough to impress the coaches.
                Cortes Ratima - Injured.
                Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
                Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
                Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.

                So all those who will be fit for the Pumas plus the NPC released makes 32?

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                  Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

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                  @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                  He was pants against Lions.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.

                    De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan

                    Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.

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                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                    My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.

                    De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan

                    Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.

                    Flat no to Tamaiti at TH. Give him time off bench at LH.

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                      Wilco Louw is an old fashioned destroyer at TH for Boks. TW went exceptionally well against Malherbe, who is a tall TH. Louw is about 2 1/2 inches shorter and built, so AB LHs will have theirs hands full. In fact, for Boks games I’d probably looks for Bower to be third LH. His mauling also a significant bonus.

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                        Any update on Peter Lakai? I'd have thought if he's fit, he'll be in the RC squad.

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                          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                          He was pants against Lions.

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                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                          He was pants against Lions.

                          I'm not going to base him much off a shit invitational side who got on the piss 2/3 times during the week of.

                          Plus he had the unfortunate task of playing outside David Havili that day.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            So, what's going on with Ethan Blackadder, David Havili and Hoskins Sotutu?

                            In the coach's plans? Not in the coach's plans? Working on their impact on both sides of the ball?

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                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                            So, what's going on with Ethan Blackadder, David Havili and Hoskins Sotutu?

                            In the coach's plans? Not in the coach's plans? Working on their impact on both sides of the ball?

                            Well Sotutu and Havili aren't in ABs, so don't need to be released as such.

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                              @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                              The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.

                              If you didn't watch any of his 40+ games for Toulon then just say so.

                              Yep I watched a lot of them the ones I watched he was very good at centre,It will be interesting where he ends up wing or centre for both the Crusaders and ABs.

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                              @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                              The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.

                              If you didn't watch any of his 40+ games for Toulon then just say so.

                              Yep I watched a lot of them the ones I watched he was very good at centre,It will be interesting where he ends up wing or centre for both the Crusaders and ABs.

                              Razor made a comment when he had signed to leave and when fozzie was still ab coach , along the lines of,

                              Big loss , plays as a wing now but Has the potential to be a nonu or umaga type if he switches to the midfield,
                              so it seems unless he has changed his mind,he likes him as a potential midfielder.

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                So, what's going on with Ethan Blackadder, David Havili and Hoskins Sotutu?

                                In the coach's plans? Not in the coach's plans? Working on their impact on both sides of the ball?

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                                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                So, what's going on with Ethan Blackadder, David Havili and Hoskins Sotutu?

                                In the coach's plans? Not in the coach's plans? Working on their impact on both sides of the ball?

                                In a radio interview, havilli was asked did the coaches give him anything he needs to work on,

                                He replied , no they said we already know what you can do but we need to have a closer look at some other players .

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                                • H hikastags

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                                  He was pants against Lions.

                                  I'm not going to base him much off a shit invitational side who got on the piss 2/3 times during the week of.

                                  Plus he had the unfortunate task of playing outside David Havili that day.

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                                  @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                                  He was pants against Lions.

                                  I'm not going to base him much off a shit invitational side who got on the piss 2/3 times during the week of.

                                  Plus he had the unfortunate task of playing outside David Havili that day.

                                  Hold on.

                                  Leicester didn't play the Lions

                                  He played the Boks outside PUJ for the Barbarians

                                  It was Laumape who played 13 outside Havili vs Lions

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.

                                    He was pants against Lions.

                                    I'm not going to base him much off a shit invitational side who got on the piss 2/3 times during the week of.

                                    Plus he had the unfortunate task of playing outside David Havili that day.

                                    Hold on.

                                    Leicester didn't play the Lions

                                    He played the Boks outside PUJ for the Barbarians

                                    It was Laumape who played 13 outside Havili vs Lions

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                                    @KiwiMurph correct. My mistake. Getting confused with the Barbarians seeing as they’re both shit invitational sides.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      Any update on Peter Lakai? I'd have thought if he's fit, he'll be in the RC squad.

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Any update on Peter Lakai? I'd have thought if he's fit, he'll be in the RC squad.

                                      If you swipe right on the below post Lakai looks to have put on a bit of size since his Canes injury, looks in great nick. He’s training with the Lions so hopefully he runs out on Saturday.

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                                        Does anyone know if Tangitau is back training with Auckland? Or still on the sidelines?

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                                        • H hikastags

                                          Does anyone know if Tangitau is back training with Auckland? Or still on the sidelines?

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                                          @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Does anyone know if Tangitau is back training with Auckland? Or still on the sidelines?

                                          Auckland posted a video a couple of weeks ago of their bronco test. Tangitau was only watching from the sidelines with some other injured players

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