All Blacks 2025
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My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
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My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
Be happy with that generally, but no need to fuck with THP. Williams is the best LHP going and Tosi is more than good enough at reserve THP (where's Red Beard ...).
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
Be happy with that generally, but no need to fuck with THP. Williams is the best LHP going and Tosi is more than good enough at reserve THP (where's Red Beard ...).
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So that leaves not released:
Forwards
Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Luke Jacobson - Injured.
Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.Backs
Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
Billy Proctor - Fit, obviously done enough to impress the coaches.
Cortes Ratima - Injured.
Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
So that leaves not released:
Forwards
Scott Barrett - Injured but likely to be back for RC.
Ethan De Groot- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Samipeni Finau - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Fabian Holland - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Luke Jacobson - Injured.
Du'Plessis Kirifi - Fit. Coaches clearly love his attitude.
Tyrell Lomax - Injured, but will be back to play SA.
Fletcher Newell - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Ollie Norris - Fit. Obviously someone they like.
Ardie Savea- Fit. Certain to be involved.
Wallace Sititi - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Samisoni Taukei'aho - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Codie Taylor - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Patrick Tuipolutu - Some niggles, but likely to be involved.
Tamati Williams - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Tupou Vaa'i - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.Backs
Jordie Barrett - Fit. Certain to be involved.
Beauden Barrett - Injured, but likely to be back for RC.
Caleb Clarke - Injured. Unlikely to be back until October.
Noah Hotham - Injured. Out until September at least.
Reiko Ioane- Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Will Jordan - Niggles, but likely to be involved.
Damian McKenzie - Fit, certain to be involved.
Billy Proctor - Fit, obviously done enough to impress the coaches.
Cortes Ratima - Injured.
Sevu Reece - Fit, likely to be involved.
Cam Roigard- Fit, certain to be involved.
Quinn Tupaea- Fit so I guess he'll get the nod.So all those who will be fit for the Pumas plus the NPC released makes 32?
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Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.
He was pants against Lions.
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My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
My guess on a possible 23 to play Argentina.
De Groot, Taylor, Newell, S. Barrett, Holland, Vaii, Savea, Sititi, Roigard, B. Barrett, Ioane, J Barrett, Proctor, Reece, Jordan
Bench: Taukei'aho, Norris, Williams (can play both sides), Tuipolutu or Finau, Kirifi, Ratima, McKenzie, Tupaea.
Flat no to Tamaiti at TH. Give him time off bench at LH.
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Wilco Louw is an old fashioned destroyer at TH for Boks. TW went exceptionally well against Malherbe, who is a tall TH. Louw is about 2 1/2 inches shorter and built, so AB LHs will have theirs hands full. In fact, for Boks games I’d probably looks for Bower to be third LH. His mauling also a significant bonus.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.
He was pants against Lions.
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.
He was pants against Lions.
I'm not going to base him much off a shit invitational side who got on the piss 2/3 times during the week of.
Plus he had the unfortunate task of playing outside David Havili that day.
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So, what's going on with Ethan Blackadder, David Havili and Hoskins Sotutu?
In the coach's plans? Not in the coach's plans? Working on their impact on both sides of the ball?
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
So, what's going on with Ethan Blackadder, David Havili and Hoskins Sotutu?
In the coach's plans? Not in the coach's plans? Working on their impact on both sides of the ball?
Well Sotutu and Havili aren't in ABs, so don't need to be released as such.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.
If you didn't watch any of his 40+ games for Toulon then just say so.
Yep I watched a lot of them the ones I watched he was very good at centre,It will be interesting where he ends up wing or centre for both the Crusaders and ABs.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
The coaching in France must be amazing for him to have improved that much.
If you didn't watch any of his 40+ games for Toulon then just say so.
Yep I watched a lot of them the ones I watched he was very good at centre,It will be interesting where he ends up wing or centre for both the Crusaders and ABs.
Razor made a comment when he had signed to leave and when fozzie was still ab coach , along the lines of,
Big loss , plays as a wing now but Has the potential to be a nonu or umaga type if he switches to the midfield,
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So, what's going on with Ethan Blackadder, David Havili and Hoskins Sotutu?
In the coach's plans? Not in the coach's plans? Working on their impact on both sides of the ball?
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
So, what's going on with Ethan Blackadder, David Havili and Hoskins Sotutu?
In the coach's plans? Not in the coach's plans? Working on their impact on both sides of the ball?
In a radio interview, havilli was asked did the coaches give him anything he needs to work on,
He replied , no they said we already know what you can do but we need to have a closer look at some other players .
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.
He was pants against Lions.
I'm not going to base him much off a shit invitational side who got on the piss 2/3 times during the week of.
Plus he had the unfortunate task of playing outside David Havili that day.
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.
He was pants against Lions.
I'm not going to base him much off a shit invitational side who got on the piss 2/3 times during the week of.
Plus he had the unfortunate task of playing outside David Havili that day.
Hold on.
Leicester didn't play the Lions
He played the Boks outside PUJ for the Barbarians
It was Laumape who played 13 outside Havili vs Lions
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Leicester should be straight back in the squad. He killed it in France at centre and is better than all of our current wings.
He was pants against Lions.
I'm not going to base him much off a shit invitational side who got on the piss 2/3 times during the week of.
Plus he had the unfortunate task of playing outside David Havili that day.
Hold on.
Leicester didn't play the Lions
He played the Boks outside PUJ for the Barbarians
It was Laumape who played 13 outside Havili vs Lions
@KiwiMurph correct. My mistake. Getting confused with the Barbarians seeing as they’re both shit invitational sides.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Any update on Peter Lakai? I'd have thought if he's fit, he'll be in the RC squad.
If you swipe right on the below post Lakai looks to have put on a bit of size since his Canes injury, looks in great nick. He’s training with the Lions so hopefully he runs out on Saturday.
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@hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:
Does anyone know if Tangitau is back training with Auckland? Or still on the sidelines?
Auckland posted a video a couple of weeks ago of their bronco test. Tangitau was only watching from the sidelines with some other injured players
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Any update on Peter Lakai? I'd have thought if he's fit, he'll be in the RC squad.
If you swipe right on the below post Lakai looks to have put on a bit of size since his Canes injury, looks in great nick. He’s training with the Lions so hopefully he runs out on Saturday.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Any update on Peter Lakai? I'd have thought if he's fit, he'll be in the RC squad.
If you swipe right on the below post Lakai looks to have put on a bit of size since his Canes injury, looks in great nick. He’s training with the Lions so hopefully he runs out on Saturday.
If Lakai is to come in, surely that's a direct swap for Du'Plessis?
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Any update on Peter Lakai? I'd have thought if he's fit, he'll be in the RC squad.
If you swipe right on the below post Lakai looks to have put on a bit of size since his Canes injury, looks in great nick. He’s training with the Lions so hopefully he runs out on Saturday.
If Lakai is to come in, surely that's a direct swap for Du'Plessis?
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Any update on Peter Lakai? I'd have thought if he's fit, he'll be in the RC squad.
If you swipe right on the below post Lakai looks to have put on a bit of size since his Canes injury, looks in great nick. He’s training with the Lions so hopefully he runs out on Saturday.
If Lakai is to come in, surely that's a direct swap for Du'Plessis?
Yep, I wouldn't be too displeased with that tbh. At 22, Lakai is already more suited to test level IMO and he will only develop even further. However, I can't see them dropping Dupes so Lakai might have to wait until an injury strikes.
