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All Blacks 2025

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    Was really impressed last year when he deputised when Roigard was out but maybe it’s just me

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    • sparkyS sparky

      With Christie, we've experienced his experience and it's a no from me.

      Folly is a dog returning to its own vomit or the All Blacks coaching team continually picking players whose skills clearly aren't up to international standard.

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      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

      With Christie, we've experienced his experience and it's a no from me.

      Folly is a dog returning to its own vomit or the All Blacks coaching team continually picking players whose skills clearly aren't up to international standard.

      If were World Cup year then considering Christie might be an option

      But we're not, so pick Fakatava. Roe or Funaki

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      • S SouthernMann

        So we need halfbacks 4&5.

        Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

        Only Fakatava is a viable option.

        Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

        Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

        Hurricanes: Viljoen.

        No show.

        Chiefs: Roe.

        Outside chance.

        Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

        Christie the best option.

        Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

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        @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

        So we need halfbacks 4&5.

        Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

        Only Fakatava is a viable option.

        Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

        Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

        Hurricanes: Viljoen.

        No show.

        Chiefs: Roe.

        Outside chance.

        Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

        Christie the best option.

        Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

        I'm going the opposite to you.

        Roe and Preston. Fakatava for Preston maybe.

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          Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

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          @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

          Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

          Not picking Viljoen yet. But agree his absence was bizarre.

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            The Eden Park record makes me want experience. There will be two injury covers, so FC and Funaki or Fakatava.

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              @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

              So we need halfbacks 4&5.

              Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

              Only Fakatava is a viable option.

              Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

              Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

              Hurricanes: Viljoen.

              No show.

              Chiefs: Roe.

              Outside chance.

              Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

              Christie the best option.

              Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

              I'm going the opposite to you.

              Roe and Preston. Fakatava for Preston maybe.

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              @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

              @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

              So we need halfbacks 4&5.

              Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

              Only Fakatava is a viable option.

              Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

              Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

              Hurricanes: Viljoen.

              No show.

              Chiefs: Roe.

              Outside chance.

              Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

              Christie the best option.

              Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

              I'm going the opposite to you.

              Roe and Preston. Fakatava for Preston maybe.

              I just don't see two debutants coming in. Especially as 4th/5th ranked in the position. If they are bringing in guys for a game or two. Best to be lads who have previously been involved in the system.

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                The Eden Park record makes me want experience. There will be two injury covers, so FC and Funaki or Fakatava.

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                @pakman Telea also has a tonne of experience at Eden Park.

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                  Okay, what I think the AB squad will be (not what I'd like to it be):

                  Props: Williams, De Groot, Norris, Newell, Tosi, Dyer
                  Hookers: Taylor, Taukei'aho, Aumua
                  Locks: S Barrett, Vaii, Holland, Tuipolutu, Darry
                  Back row: Finau, Kirifi, Blackadder, Sititi, Lakai, Savea, Lio-Willie
                  Half Backs: Ratima, Christie, Fakatava
                  First Fives: B Barrett, DMac
                  Midfield: Jodie Barrett, Tavatavanawai, Tupaea, Proctor
                  Back Three: R Ioane, Reece, Narawa, Jordan, Love

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                    Okay, what I think the AB squad will be (not what I'd like to it be):

                    Props: Williams, De Groot, Norris, Newell, Tosi, Dyer
                    Hookers: Taylor, Taukei'aho, Aumua
                    Locks: S Barrett, Vaii, Holland, Tuipolutu, Darry
                    Back row: Finau, Kirifi, Blackadder, Sititi, Lakai, Savea, Lio-Willie
                    Half Backs: Ratima, Christie, Fakatava
                    First Fives: B Barrett, DMac
                    Midfield: Jodie Barrett, Tavatavanawai, Tupaea, Proctor
                    Back Three: R Ioane, Reece, Narawa, Jordan, Love

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                    @sparky think it will be a squad of 37. Would be surprised if ALB misses out.

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                      I'd be surprised if Darry is selected with less than 40 mins of rugby behind him.

                      Sititi might not be ready for the Arg trip so Parker is a good chance based on the rumours. Like the squad for the French series, there will be extras included as injury replacements.

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                      • M Mr Fish

                        @sparky think it will be a squad of 37. Would be surprised if ALB misses out.

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                        • M Mr Fish

                          @sparky think it will be a squad of 37. Would be surprised if ALB misses out.

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                          @Mr-Fish Isn't ALB injured?

                          SA picked 37, but I think the ABs will pick 35 or 36.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            I'd be surprised if Darry is selected with less than 40 mins of rugby behind him.

                            Sititi might not be ready for the Arg trip so Parker is a good chance based on the rumours. Like the squad for the French series, there will be extras included as injury replacements.

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                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                            I'd be surprised if Darry is selected with less than 40 mins of rugby behind him.

                            Sititi might not be ready for the Arg trip so Parker is a good chance based on the rumours. Like the squad for the French series, there will be extras included as injury replacements.

                            TTC is for two months, so plenty of time to get Darry up to speed.

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              Okay, what I think the AB squad will be (not what I'd like to it be):

                              Props: Williams, De Groot, Norris, Newell, Tosi, Dyer
                              Hookers: Taylor, Taukei'aho, Aumua
                              Locks: S Barrett, Vaii, Holland, Tuipolutu, Darry
                              Back row: Finau, Kirifi, Blackadder, Sititi, Lakai, Savea, Lio-Willie
                              Half Backs: Ratima, Christie, Fakatava
                              First Fives: B Barrett, DMac
                              Midfield: Jodie Barrett, Tavatavanawai, Tupaea, Proctor
                              Back Three: R Ioane, Reece, Narawa, Jordan, Love

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                              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Okay, what I think the AB squad will be (not what I'd like to it be):

                              Props: Williams, De Groot, Norris, Newell, Tosi, Dyer
                              Hookers: Taylor, Taukei'aho, Aumua
                              Locks: S Barrett, Vaii, Holland, Tuipolutu, Darry
                              Back row: Finau, Kirifi, Blackadder, Sititi, Lakai, Savea, Lio-Willie
                              Half Backs: Ratima, Christie, Fakatava
                              First Fives: B Barrett, DMac
                              Midfield: Jodie Barrett, Tavatavanawai, Tupaea, Proctor
                              Back Three: R Ioane, Reece, Narawa, Jordan, Love

                              Would be surprised if they pick 12 locks and loose forwards.

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                                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Okay, what I think the AB squad will be (not what I'd like to it be):

                                Props: Williams, De Groot, Norris, Newell, Tosi, Dyer
                                Hookers: Taylor, Taukei'aho, Aumua
                                Locks: S Barrett, Vaii, Holland, Tuipolutu, Darry
                                Back row: Finau, Kirifi, Blackadder, Sititi, Lakai, Savea, Lio-Willie
                                Half Backs: Ratima, Christie, Fakatava
                                First Fives: B Barrett, DMac
                                Midfield: Jodie Barrett, Tavatavanawai, Tupaea, Proctor
                                Back Three: R Ioane, Reece, Narawa, Jordan, Love

                                Would be surprised if they pick 12 locks and loose forwards.

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                                @brodean They may go with only one of Lakai or Blackadder, but lots of sauces suggest they are part of the coaches' plans.

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                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Good tackler, good goalkicker, covers 12 and 15, kicks his team around the field and runs it hard and straight. Complete waste of time for the All Blacks, obviously.

                                  Not compatible with the way we want to play πŸ™„

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                                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Good tackler, good goalkicker, covers 12 and 15, kicks his team around the field and runs it hard and straight. Complete waste of time for the All Blacks, obviously.

                                  Not compatible with the way we want to play πŸ™„

                                  The Abs strengths over the next 2-3 seasons are in their set piece, tight 5, halfback, Jordie coming into his peak and from the back with Jordan and if we get the outside backs right.

                                  This screams out for a 10 who can put us in the right places in the field.
                                  With Roigard at 9 we need less of a playmaker, gamebreaker at 10.

                                  But it seems as though we are obseessed with chipkicks

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    I'd be surprised if Darry is selected with less than 40 mins of rugby behind him.

                                    Sititi might not be ready for the Arg trip so Parker is a good chance based on the rumours. Like the squad for the French series, there will be extras included as injury replacements.

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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    I'd be surprised if Darry is selected with less than 40 mins of rugby behind him.

                                    Sititi might not be ready for the Arg trip so Parker is a good chance based on the rumours. Like the squad for the French series, there will be extras included as injury replacements.

                                    If the pick 4 locks, I dont think Darry replaces any of the 4 locks from the french squad, maybe he hets in if they select vaai as a 6 primarily

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                                      @brodean They may go with only one of Lakai or Blackadder, but lots of sauces suggest they are part of the coaches' plans.

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @brodean They may go with only one of Lakai or Blackadder, but lots of sauces suggest they are part of the coaches' plans.

                                      You don't seem to accounting for Papalii at all who has just been with the squad and put in a compelling case at the end of test 3.

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                                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Good tackler, good goalkicker, covers 12 and 15, kicks his team around the field and runs it hard and straight. Complete waste of time for the All Blacks, obviously.

                                        Not compatible with the way we want to play πŸ™„

                                        The Abs strengths over the next 2-3 seasons are in their set piece, tight 5, halfback, Jordie coming into his peak and from the back with Jordan and if we get the outside backs right.

                                        This screams out for a 10 who can put us in the right places in the field.
                                        With Roigard at 9 we need less of a playmaker, gamebreaker at 10.

                                        But it seems as though we are obseessed with chipkicks

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                                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Good tackler, good goalkicker, covers 12 and 15, kicks his team around the field and runs it hard and straight. Complete waste of time for the All Blacks, obviously.

                                        Not compatible with the way we want to play πŸ™„

                                        The Abs strengths over the next 2-3 seasons are in their set piece, tight 5, halfback, Jordie coming into his peak and from the back with Jordan and if we get the outside backs right.

                                        This screams out for a 10 who can put us in the right places in the field.
                                        With Roigard at 9 we need less of a playmaker, gamebreaker at 10.

                                        But it seems as though we are obseessed with chipkicks

                                        It's bloody frustrating. We need a guy who is a little bit of Grant Fox to go with the X-factor

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @brodean They may go with only one of Lakai or Blackadder, but lots of sauces suggest they are part of the coaches' plans.

                                          You don't seem to accounting for Papalii at all who has just been with the squad and put in a compelling case at the end of test 3.

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                                          @KiwiMurph I'd love to see Dalton Papali'i in there. IMHO he is at least our second best 7 and perhaps even our best, but let me put it this way, I don't think that opinion is shared by the All Blacks coaches.

                                          All the rumours from TMM suggest we can expect Blackadder in there.

                                          Higher up the thread is the squad I'd pick.

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