All Blacks 2025
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@Unite said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.
Either Jordie or Richie kick a penalty and we win the RWC2023. It matters. We don't value it.
It's why Carter was under rated if anything. Money in the bank.
Go and grab a beer, take a piss. 3 points in the bag by the time you come back.
I understand what you are hinting at here, but he really wasn't.
One of the very best things about his career is that everyone pretty much knew right away that he was a generational player and potentially the best ever. I consider myself incredibly lucky to have watched him and McCaw for so long.
Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.
Do you mean
Carter was never underrated. If anything, Nonu was, far more than him.
Girlfriend in a comma. I know, I know, it's serious.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
When he debuted for the Canes Nonu was raw powerful and exciting but he tended to make fundamental errors that were exposed when he first played for the All Blacks. Over time he polished those edges and also added a decent kicking game and a very good passing game, two things that he never had at the start. Combined with his brutal physicality Nonu was a complete midfielder for the second half of his all black career. He also had a durability that is evident to this day as he still continues to play professionally
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
When he debuted for the Canes Nonu was raw powerful and exciting but he tended to make fundamental errors that were exposed when he first played for the All Blacks. Over time he polished those edges and also added a decent kicking game and a very good passing game, two things that he never had at the start. Combined with his brutal physicality Nonu was a complete midfielder for the second half of his all black career. He also had a durability that is evident to this day as he still continues to play professionally
It's that vegetarian diet!
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.
Do you mean
Carter was never underrated. If anything, Nonu was, far more than him.
Girlfriend in a comma. I know, I know, it's serious.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.
Do you mean
Carter was never underrated. If anything, Nonu was, far more than him.
Girlfriend in a comma. I know, I know, it's serious.
https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/confused-black-guy-what-akward-gif-26811297
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.
Do you mean
Carter was never underrated. If anything, Nonu was, far more than him.
Girlfriend in a comma. I know, I know, it's serious.
https://tenor.com/en-NZ/view/confused-black-guy-what-akward-gif-26811297
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Girlfriend in a coma. I know, I know, it's serious.
...is a very famous Smiths song.
While your sentence seemed to be missing some commas.
Thought you'd get the reference. -
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Girlfriend in a coma. I know, I know, it's serious.
...is a very famous Smiths song.
While your sentence seemed to be missing some commas.
Thought you'd get the reference.@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Girlfriend in a coma. I know, I know, it's serious.
...is a very famous Smiths song.
While your sentence seemed to be missing some commas.
Thought you'd get the reference.Ugh, you've made the sentence unreadable now.
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One of the good things to look at the at the situation in an encouraging way is that I cant see the back three being quite so poor at Eden Park. Maybe it could be replicated but I'm tempted to think they can't play that bad again.
Razors selections at wing have been super conservative this year - RI & Sevu 4 starts with just Jordan and Narawa usurping that and now he had to show faith with Narawa or some of the other wingers in the squad.
Playing a player on the wing who played all his super rugby this year at 13 partnered with a short/small player was eventually going to bite Razor in the ass.... Better in BA than Eden Park.
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One of the good things to look at the at the situation in an encouraging way is that I cant see the back three being quite so poor at Eden Park. Maybe it could be replicated but I'm tempted to think they can't play that bad again.
Razors selections at wing have been super conservative this year - RI & Sevu 4 starts with just Jordan and Narawa usurping that and now he had to show faith with Narawa or some of the other wingers in the squad.
Playing a player on the wing who played all his super rugby this year at 13 partnered with a short/small player was eventually going to bite Razor in the ass.... Better in BA than Eden Park.
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm tempted to think they can't play that bad again.
That's true, it's very rare for any of that back 3 to have dire games.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Money in the bank.
He had off days. Outsanding generally, but there were days he struggled with the boot.
I remember a game against the Bokke where he missed a lot ... even the best have off days.
Yeah I was watching highlights of a test from that golden era where he played well in general play but missed at least 3 goal kicks. One was pretty standard too.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Money in the bank.
He had off days. Outsanding generally, but there were days he struggled with the boot.
I remember a game against the Bokke where he missed a lot ... even the best have off days.
Yeah I was watching highlights of a test from that golden era where he played well in general play but missed at least 3 goal kicks. One was pretty standard too.
Off the top of my head… 2008 Capetown vs the Boks. We won 18-5. Was a horrendous swirling wind. Carter overcompensated and missed a lot of kicks. So did Percy from their side. It was Percy’s 50th test too from memory.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Girlfriend in a coma. I know, I know, it's serious.
...is a very famous Smiths song.
While your sentence seemed to be missing some commas.
Thought you'd get the reference.@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Girlfriend in a coma. I know, I know, it's serious.
...is a very famous Smiths song.
While your sentence seemed to be missing some commas.
Thought you'd get the reference.Sometimes you’re too weird for your own good.
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Jeez watching the Breakdown is painful. No we don’t want Beauden at fullback, we don’t want Ioane at 13. F off.
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Jeez watching the Breakdown is painful. No we don’t want Beauden at fullback, we don’t want Ioane at 13. F off.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
Jeez watching the Breakdown is painful. No we don’t want Beauden at fullback, we don’t want Ioane at 13. Fuck off.
Someone is clearly lapping that shit up. Or Sky executives think they are. My observations of rugby comments on FB would suggest there is a large group of imbeciles out there
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Jeez watching the Breakdown is painful. No we don’t want Beauden at fullback, we don’t want Ioane at 13. F off.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
watching the Breakdown
There's your mistake
Fair, I don’t usually watch it but was watching the Stags victory and it came on after when I was cooking a steak. They are literally afraid to say anything negative about any player because they all obviously have ties to most players that are still playing.
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Other big news of that is Darry and Roe join the squad.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
When he debuted for the Canes Nonu was raw powerful and exciting but he tended to make fundamental errors that were exposed when he first played for the All Blacks. Over time he polished those edges and also added a decent kicking game and a very good passing game, two things that he never had at the start. Combined with his brutal physicality Nonu was a complete midfielder for the second half of his all black career. He also had a durability that is evident to this day as he still continues to play professionally
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
When he debuted for the Canes Nonu was raw powerful and exciting but he tended to make fundamental errors that were exposed when he first played for the All Blacks. Over time he polished those edges and also added a decent kicking game and a very good passing game, two things that he never had at the start. Combined with his brutal physicality Nonu was a complete midfielder for the second half of his all black career. He also had a durability that is evident to this day as he still continues to play professionally
All seemed to click for him when he became a full time 12 as well , the early days of him playing 13 was when he was exposed defensively.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
When he debuted for the Canes Nonu was raw powerful and exciting but he tended to make fundamental errors that were exposed when he first played for the All Blacks. Over time he polished those edges and also added a decent kicking game and a very good passing game, two things that he never had at the start. Combined with his brutal physicality Nonu was a complete midfielder for the second half of his all black career. He also had a durability that is evident to this day as he still continues to play professionally
All seemed to click for him when he became a full time 12 as well , the early days of him playing 13 was when he was exposed defensively.
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Nonu was appreciated in his time. But I think his stature has grown exponentially over the last decade since his international retirement.
Carter’s stature has probably remained the sameThat’s what I mean. Everyone knew he got better and better but once he’d retired he did so as arguably the best 12 ever.
Most complete 12 I've ever seen. Had everything in his game and lot of that came from hard yakka. off the field.
All the skills and a physical beast with it.
Fuck Tim Horan, Nonu is the GOAT
I think there were players with more natural talent and skills. None had his work ethic,
When he debuted for the Canes Nonu was raw powerful and exciting but he tended to make fundamental errors that were exposed when he first played for the All Blacks. Over time he polished those edges and also added a decent kicking game and a very good passing game, two things that he never had at the start. Combined with his brutal physicality Nonu was a complete midfielder for the second half of his all black career. He also had a durability that is evident to this day as he still continues to play professionally
All seemed to click for him when he became a full time 12 as well , the early days of him playing 13 was when he was exposed defensively.
I think that also coincided with him getting very fit, from memory? The AB coaches asked / sent him to sevens and he came back and much fitter and more involved player. Hanson has talked a bit about that being a key turning point.
