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  • J Jet

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Razor must be a bit slow

    I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

    With or without stellar play from DMac

    DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

    There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

    once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

    Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

    Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

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    Bones
    wrote on last edited by
    #680

    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Razor must be a bit slow

    I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

    With or without stellar play from DMac

    DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

    There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

    once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

    Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

    Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

    If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

      Razor must be a bit slow

      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

      With or without stellar play from DMac

      DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

      There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

      once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

      Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

      Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

      If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

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      Jet
      wrote on last edited by
      #681

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

      Razor must be a bit slow

      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

      With or without stellar play from DMac

      DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

      There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

      once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

      Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

      Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

      If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

      Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

      So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

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      • J Jet

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

        Razor must be a bit slow

        I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

        With or without stellar play from DMac

        DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

        There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

        once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

        Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

        Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

        If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

        Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

        So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

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        Bones
        wrote on last edited by
        #682

        @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

        Razor must be a bit slow

        I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

        With or without stellar play from DMac

        DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

        There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

        once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

        Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

        Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

        If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

        Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

        So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

        You mean like DMac did?

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

          Razor must be a bit slow

          I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

          With or without stellar play from DMac

          DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

          There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

          once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

          Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

          Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

          If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

          Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

          So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

          You mean like DMac did?

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          Jet
          wrote on last edited by
          #683

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

          Razor must be a bit slow

          I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

          With or without stellar play from DMac

          DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

          There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

          once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

          Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

          Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

          If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

          Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

          So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

          You mean like DMac did?

          Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

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          • J Jet

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

            Razor must be a bit slow

            I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

            With or without stellar play from DMac

            DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

            There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

            once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

            Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

            Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

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            Mr Fish
            wrote on last edited by
            #684

            @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

            Razor must be a bit slow

            I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

            With or without stellar play from DMac

            DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

            There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

            once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

            Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

            Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

            To be fair, it's only week one of the season and both players had limited pre-seasons.

            Suspect McKenzie, at the ver leasy, will largely be playing at 10 for the Chiefs. Barrett is a better 15 so makes sense for him to stay there when you've got Plummer as a 10 option (and then to not be played for the All Blacks...).

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            • J Jet

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              Razor must be a bit slow

              I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

              With or without stellar play from DMac

              DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

              There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

              once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

              Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

              Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

              If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

              Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

              So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

              You mean like DMac did?

              Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

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              Bones
              wrote on last edited by
              #685

              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              Razor must be a bit slow

              I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

              With or without stellar play from DMac

              DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

              There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

              once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

              Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

              Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

              If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

              Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

              So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

              You mean like DMac did?

              Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

              So you didn't watch the game? Got it.

              Plus, as said - week one.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                Razor must be a bit slow

                I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                With or without stellar play from DMac

                DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                You mean like DMac did?

                Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

                So you didn't watch the game? Got it.

                Plus, as said - week one.

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                MN5
                wrote on last edited by
                #686

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                Razor must be a bit slow

                I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                With or without stellar play from DMac

                DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                You mean like DMac did?

                Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

                So you didn't watch the game? Got it.

                Plus, as said - week one.

                Did you see that try Jordan set up with the help of other maligned All Blacks like Havili and Reece ? Pure class.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Razor must be a bit slow

                  I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                  With or without stellar play from DMac

                  DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                  There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                  once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                  Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                  Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                  If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                  Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                  So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                  You mean like DMac did?

                  Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

                  So you didn't watch the game? Got it.

                  Plus, as said - week one.

                  Did you see that try Jordan set up with the help of other maligned All Blacks like Havili and Reece ? Pure class.

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                  Bones
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #687

                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Razor must be a bit slow

                  I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                  With or without stellar play from DMac

                  DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                  There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                  once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                  Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                  Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                  If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                  Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                  So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                  You mean like DMac did?

                  Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

                  So you didn't watch the game? Got it.

                  Plus, as said - week one.

                  Did you see that try Jordan set up with the help of other maligned All Blacks like Havili and Reece ? Pure class.

                  Lelia Masaga would've scored it himself.

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                  • F Frank

                    @Dan54
                    Totally agree. Let's scrap the forum and blindly follow the talking points of ex-players.
                    I mean....what's the point of even having opinions?

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                    Dan54
                    wrote on last edited by Dan54
                    #688

                    @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Dan54
                    Totally agree. Let's scrap the forum and blindly follow the talking points of ex-players.
                    I mean....what's the point of even having opinions?

                    Why do that, it against what my post about, I saying it good to have boreds so we can have opinions. Well it is for me, as I love talking and seeing opinions no matter how much we agree or disagree. Anyone with a modicum of sense would see I pointing out how sunjective it all is. And even here how perhaps if somene has difference of opinion doesn't make him right or wrong etc.

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                      Bones
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #689

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                      • J Jet

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Razor must be a bit slow

                        I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                        With or without stellar play from DMac

                        DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                        There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                        once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                        Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                        Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

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                        Machpants
                        wrote on last edited by Machpants
                        #690

                        @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Razor must be a bit slow

                        I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                        With or without stellar play from DMac

                        DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                        There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                        once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                        Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                        Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                        McMillan said DMac is their ten. He would've been on the bench but for injuries. So he'll be ten most of the year, beaudy won't. Beaver had pointed out that beaudy looks like a fifteen playing ten, and he should know. And I hate to agree with Marshall but his point that wanting every player to be able to play multiple positions is detrimental to the player in many positions eg front row, nine, and ten

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                        • M Machpants

                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Razor must be a bit slow

                          I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                          With or without stellar play from DMac

                          DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                          There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                          once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                          Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                          Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                          McMillan said DMac is their ten. He would've been on the bench but for injuries. So he'll be ten most of the year, beaudy won't. Beaver had pointed out that beaudy looks like a fifteen playing ten, and he should know. And I hate to agree with Marshall but his point that wanting every player to be able to play multiple positions is detrimental to the player in many positions eg front row, nine, and ten

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #691

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Razor must be a bit slow

                          I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                          With or without stellar play from DMac

                          DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                          There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                          once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                          Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                          Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                          McMillan said DMac is their ten. He would've been on the bench but for injuries. So he'll be ten most of the year, beaudy won't. Beaver had pointed out that beaudy looks like a fifteen playing ten, and he should know. And I hate to agree with Marshall but his point that wanting every player to be able to play multiple positions is detrimental to the player in many positions eg front row, nine, and ten

                          I actually think Marshall’s analysis isn’t so bad when he is away from the commentary role .

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

                            I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

                            I was among DMac's biggest detractors on this site and even I've come around to the firmly held belief he's matured into our best option.

                            Agreed.

                            And one of the things we need to look for this year is how well Robertson and co. develop options at 10 to back him up. Needs to look for newer talent and not harp on about RM or see BB as anything other than a short-term option.

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                            And one of the things we need to look for this year is how well Robertson and co. develop options at 10 to back him up. Needs to look for newer talent and not harp on about RM or see BB as anything other than a short-term option.

                            fair comment.

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                              https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-to-play-ireland-in-chicago-rematch

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                                https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-to-play-ireland-in-chicago-rematch

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                                @Bovidae can't we play a team more people would like to watch us play?

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                                  @Bovidae can't we play a team more people would like to watch us play?

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Bovidae can't we play a team more people would like to watch us play?

                                  France would be the only other NH team because these are the other EOYT tests:

                                  Nov 8 - Scotland
                                  Nov 15 - England
                                  Nov 22 - Wales

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                                    the same places think A Savea was basically the best player in black last year. I am convinced most people don't even watch games, they just watch a few highlights and parrot talking points of 2-5 years ago.

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    the same places think A Savea was basically the best player in black last year. I am convinced most people don't even watch games, they just watch a few highlights and parrot talking points of 2-5 years ago.

                                    Probably includes the commentators and so called expert pundits...

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                                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Razor must be a bit slow

                                      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                                      With or without stellar play from DMac

                                      DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                                      There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                                      once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                                      Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                                      Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                                      McMillan said DMac is their ten. He would've been on the bench but for injuries. So he'll be ten most of the year, beaudy won't. Beaver had pointed out that beaudy looks like a fifteen playing ten, and he should know. And I hate to agree with Marshall but his point that wanting every player to be able to play multiple positions is detrimental to the player in many positions eg front row, nine, and ten

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                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Razor must be a bit slow

                                      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                                      With or without stellar play from DMac

                                      DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                                      There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                                      once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                                      Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                                      Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                                      McMillan said DMac is their ten. He would've been on the bench but for injuries. So he'll be ten most of the year, beaudy won't. Beaver had pointed out that beaudy looks like a fifteen playing ten, and he should know. And I hate to agree with Marshall but his point that wanting every player to be able to play multiple positions is detrimental to the player in many positions eg front row, nine, and ten

                                      DMac showed his class on the weekend. I expect him continue to demonstrate he is best in show at 10 in NZ right now. It is up to Razor to put him in the best position to succeed in black now, that is all on him. I want to see him change the formation and the gameplan to bring the best out of 10, 12, 13

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bovidae can't we play a team more people would like to watch us play?

                                        France would be the only other NH team because these are the other EOYT tests:

                                        Nov 8 - Scotland
                                        Nov 15 - England
                                        Nov 22 - Wales

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                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bovidae can't we play a team more people would like to watch us play?

                                        France would be the only other NH team because these are the other EOYT tests:

                                        Nov 8 - Scotland
                                        Nov 15 - England
                                        Nov 22 - Wales

                                        Pffft, speak for yourself, this one will be a test for the ages

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bovidae can't we play a team more people would like to watch us play?

                                          France would be the only other NH team because these are the other EOYT tests:

                                          Nov 8 - Scotland
                                          Nov 15 - England
                                          Nov 22 - Wales

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                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bovidae can't we play a team more people would like to watch us play?

                                          France would be the only other NH team because these are the other EOYT tests:

                                          Nov 8 - Scotland
                                          Nov 15 - England
                                          Nov 22 - Wales

                                          Quasi grand slam then, get on it razor

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