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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    No Eben, no DDA?!

    Could have done with him coaching us for a year or so to light fires under some arses.

    Rightly or wrongly he doesnt reward bad performances.

    Unlike the Allblacks.

    Because Etzebeth played so poorly.

    Rassie is either prescient or full of shit

    Based on one average Etzebeth match I’d wager the latter

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    The ABs and the Springboks are quite inconsistent with wins at the moment so I wouldn't be surprised to see a reverse result from the previous weekend.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    maybe he thinks we got the rub,

    Like home sides do generally. When read in sequence it was remarkable exercise in cherry picking decisions (which is why I remarked).

    Dickson didn't seem to be as pedantic as usual, and it ended up at 10 penalties each (I think) so read into that what you will.

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    @Snowy said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    maybe he thinks we got the rub,

    Like home sides do generally. When read in sequence it was remarkable exercise in cherry picking decisions (which is why I remarked).

    Dickson didn't seem to be as pedantic as usual, and it ended up at 10 penalties each (I think) so read into that what you will.

    The Springboks are obviously cheats consistently flouting the law and deservedly penalised, whilst he was unreasonably harsh on us.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Snowy said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    maybe he thinks we got the rub,

    Like home sides do generally. When read in sequence it was remarkable exercise in cherry picking decisions (which is why I remarked).

    Dickson didn't seem to be as pedantic as usual, and it ended up at 10 penalties each (I think) so read into that what you will.

    The Springboks are obviously cheats consistently flouting the law and deservedly penalised, whilst he was unreasonably harsh on us.

    That's exactly how I read it too!

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Snowy said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    maybe he thinks we got the rub,

    Like home sides do generally. When read in sequence it was remarkable exercise in cherry picking decisions (which is why I remarked).

    Dickson didn't seem to be as pedantic as usual, and it ended up at 10 penalties each (I think) so read into that what you will.

    The Springboks are obviously cheats consistently flouting the law and deservedly penalised were not penalised anywhere near enough, whilst he was unreasonably harsh on us.

    Fixed

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #114

    I’m not so harsh on Dickson’s performance. I agreed with every penalty he called on South Africa.

    Fortunately this upcoming test, the ref will have no bearing on the outcome of the match given we will win by 20.

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    Sep 8

    Secret weapon? All Blacks great in camp ahead of Boks rematch

    Secret weapon? All Blacks great in camp ahead of Boks rematch

    Former skipper Richie McCaw is spending time with the All Blacks in Wellington this week as they attempt to build on their Eden Park win.

    It's DEFCON1 so they bring out the GOAT

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  • BonesB Offline
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    Yeah have to say Dickson has improved markedly from the world cup, as has his training regime it appears. Still wouldn't want to see him reffing another PI nation against an "upper tier" team.

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    Xavier Roe is still training with the squad, so plenty of halfbacks in Wellington.

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    Apart for the first 20 minutes, our kicking game was average. To me we took the foot off the throat with the Boks gradually working their way back into the game.

    Justin Marshall ( don’t usually quote him ) said we lacked variation i.e. we could have kicked from 1st and 2nd as well.

    I like the way Ireland do it - moving the point of attack around first and then from center field they kick long into corners. That’s how I remember.

    Hate the box kick but recognise the issue with static ball and players getting smashed in the carry. Has to be something better?

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    Apart for the first 20 minutes, our kicking game was average. To me we took the foot off the throat with the Boks gradually working their way back into the game.

    Justin Marshall ( don’t usually quote him ) said we lacked variation i.e. we could have kicked from 1st and 2nd as well.

    I like the way Ireland do it - moving the point of attack around first and then from center field they kick long into corners. That’s how I remember.

    Hate the box kick but recognise the issue with static ball and players getting smashed in the carry. Has to be something better?

    A well executed box kick has quite a few advantages especially when the ball is slow and the conditions aren’t great.

    What I would like to see more from the ABs is attacking their secondary defensive line because we showed in glimpses that we could open it up. The Aussies did as well in both of their tests. There are opportunities to make decent metres if we show a bit of imagination from 1st 5.

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    @ACT-Crusader it helps if your 10 isn't gun shy about taking the ball to the line, and he has something in his bag other than dinky chip kicks and grubbers...

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    If someone more educated on kicking tactics could enlighten me...

    What are the advantages of a box kick compared to passing to the 10 and the 10 kicking and up-and-under? Only ones I can think of are that the forwards can immediately follow up (instead of having to wait to be put on side), and that you can (potentially) get slightly more distance from a box kick.

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    If the 9 from a lineout/maul does a box kick with long hang time it can potentially come down a couple of metres from touch, making recipient very vulnerable to being bundled into touch.
    Seem to recall Conor Murray being great on that in test one of last Boks Lions series.

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    What is the main reason the Bok dominated territory?

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    What is the main reason the Bok dominated territory?

    They were in the AB half more than their own.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    What is the main reason the Bok dominated territory?

    They were in the AB half more than their own.

    BRILLIANT!!!!

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    What is the main reason the Bok dominated territory?

    They were in the AB half more than their own.

    BRILLIANT!!!!

    I caught this week's Breakdown.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    What is the main reason the Bok dominated territory?

    It was really only the latter part of the second half that they dominated territory. From memory they recycled the ball more with less errors. I don’t think their kicking game was the main reason.
    They had a better halfback on which also helped.

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