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    A series that ended 2-1. A series that turned in the end on one play. Sell out crowds of nearly 250,000 people at iconic sporting venues. Millions made for the Aussie economy. Tens of thousands of British and Irish tourists going home after a trip of a life time. Much debate about referees and TMOs. Thousands of yarns told over jugs of beer. Friendships forged between good rugby folk.

    Let's stop right now all talk of the British and Irish Lions not touring Australia again.

    Roll on 2037!

  • All Blacks 2025

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    I think they will did another third half back rather than Noah Hotham.

  • NRL 2025

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    Dragons get up over Canberra too. It's a tough comp, the Dragons are nowhere near the top, but are always a team where you have to work hard to beat.

  • 2025 UNDER 85KG NATIONAL CLUB CUP

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    @Bones Hastings Rugby and Sports Club

  • 1 second ruck - squidge

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    @yeahbutnah said in 1 second ruck - squidge:

    Again caveated by me not really knowing what I’m talking about but the offloads in that second test felt more squidge aligned than the first.

    Bit of a late (and long..) reply but I was reminded of your remark when watching the NPC.

    While there’s certainly a trend in World Rugby these past few years in terms of the attacking offload, in my own view the AB offload plan is more (1) a response to a trend that has been endemic within NZ Rugby itself, and (2) something that deeply originates from within Canterbury rugby, rather than representing an outside influence.

    I think, first of all, what Robertson wants to move away from – and which they did reasonably well against the French – is the tendency within NZ Rugby (Super, NPC, AB 7s) to throw blind, speculative offloads.

    Watching the Wellington-Canterbury game, there were two very good examples of what, I think, the AB coaches don’t want to see in terms of offloading, where the team does the hard work to create the line break, only for players to throw an offload which isn’t on, effectively wasting the possession and the line break.

    Two line breaks made inside the opposition half but zero points scored

    First, Love, after making the break from a nicely set up scrum attack, throws the blind offload to his right with the try line in his sight, which is duly intercepted by Punivai. Then, in the second half, Proctor bursts through the line off a rather chaotic but well-timed move, only for him to throw an offload from a compromised position (out of balance, falling to the ground), leading to another turnover. The timing of these turnovers is indicative as well – at the 35th and 45th minutes, respectively – which are typically momentum-shifting points in the game.

    While the mindset from Love and Proctor seems like the right one for a fluid attack – KBA, keeping the ball alive, the buzzword from a few years ago – the application, in these instances, is the wrong one. With the Canterbury players consistently trying to get into the passing lanes, the Wellington backs need to have eyes on their support and their hands free to make sure they can efficiently transfer the ball and keep the attack going. If there’s no support visible or the opposition player has you wrapped up, it’s better to take contact and attack the fractured defensive line in a new phase.

    It is this kind of wrong application that, I think, the AB coaches are trying to eradicate from their attack, as the ABs simply produced too many turnovers after line breaks in the 2024 season, which cost them a lot of points and more than a few results as well. But looking at some of the decision-making around the offload in the NPC – from All Blacks and experienced campaigners – that won’t be easy as those are some ingrained habits.

    Secondly, I believe this kind of emphasis on ‘communicative offloading’ (that’s not a real term but it makes sense to me) isn’t so much something that comes from outside but is rather a foundational premise from Robertson’s coaching background. A central principle of Canterbury and Crusaders rugby – again, mostly stemming from the mind of Wayne Smith – is to finish line breaks with a try. There was only one category that the Crusader attack was ranked first in this season in Super Rugby (Opta Stats), and that was the % of line breaks leading to a try (44.1%). Globally, this ranked only behind the Bulls from South Africa and the two current French powerhouses, Toulouse and Bordeaux Bègles.

    But that’s not the Crusaders trying to replicate French or South African trends (as I think someone like Squidge is implying); that is Crusaders’ DNA being recreated around the world (it’s not a coincidence that Ronan O’Gara started talking about KBA after coaching in Christchurch for a few years).

    But for this to work at AB-level, the speculative offload needs to be replaced by a smarter offloading game (low-risk, high-reward offloads) to visible support, which I think is what we’ve been seeing more of during the French Test series. But the real test will come against the Boks, who are masters at breaking up support play after line breaks (both legally and illegally).

  • NPC 2025

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    Thought it was a pretty strong debut from Muliaina, the pace seemed to lift, and Southland looked far more threatening in attack. Poor handling and a terrible scrum really cost Southland in the end. That and Otago were just the better team.

  • Black Caps in Zimbabwe

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    Michael Holding was a somewhat early retirement with injuries. The Windies also weren't renowned for rushing through their overs in that era - smart on their part tho. We still bowled a few into the ground/had bad luck with injuries even then, us being us... Brendon Bracewell among others springs to mind.

    Lets hope O'Rourke isn't joining a long list....

  • Auckland Rugby 2025

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    Today Ponsonby U21's beat Marist in the championship final to add that trophy to our Men's and Woman's titles. Not a bad seasons work from the grand old club.

  • European Club Rugby

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    @Dan54 said in European Club Rugby:

    I think it great news, and credit tp LRZ gave it a try, and perhaps didn't work as he hoped.
    Always have a crack at your dreams I reckon!

    Don't even know where to begin.

  • School Rugby 2025

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  • Northern Region Representative Rugby 2025

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    I went to this corresponding fixture last year and it was a close game. Not the strongest Harlequins team available so maybe Thames Valley are in for a tough season compared to the highs of 2024.

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  • Aussie Community Rugby

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    @MajorRage said in Aussie Community Rugby:

    One for you @NTA https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/articles/cy0qg92de8vo

    "In my experience, from what I see day to day, Australian rugby union is in fantastic health, when you are on the ground here and you experience the true reality of the [size of the] AFL and rugby league," he tells Rugby Union Weekly.

    "The club game here is in rude health. You just have these two other sports that are thicker in the blood [of the Australian sporting public].

    " If rugby league and AFL didn't exist in this country, I think the Wallabies would be hard pressed to ever lose a game."

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  • EPL 2024/2025

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    Son Heung Min is leaving Spurs with immediate effect. Such a great servant for the club. But he's diminished and this way Frank isn't pressured to play him, and Sonny doesn't suffer the prospect of riding the bench for a team when he always used to be first name on the sheet. Let him go wherever he wants to, although ideally he doesn't stay in the Prem 😉

  • Chiefs 2026

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    Good point, forgot about ALB's sabbatical. Popoali'i, he go alright?

  • Sports Memes

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    @mikedogz said in Sports Memes:

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    Brilliant

  • AFL 2025

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    @booboo said in AFL 2025:

    @African-Monkey said in AFL 2025:

    Right, just moves to Perth fellow ferners. I'm on the Freo bandwagon. What are our chances of winning it lol?

    I also know bugger all about the game but am making an effort to follow haha.

    If it's anything like Adelaide you won't need to make an effort. It's all you'll see and hear. At least you have the Farce.

    Seen a bit around the place but not like Melbourne where it's rammed down your throat (so far anyway). Never been to Adelaide so can't comment (yet).

    Yup the Farce are located 10 mins walk away from where I am, so I will be attending their matches every week.

  • Otago 2025

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    Few notable inclusions for the two dirt trackers sides named for the weekend.

    Josh Tengblad is making his return from injury Jake Te Hiwi also returning from injury Lolofie, Ratcliffe, Toleafoa, Rangitutia all lining up
  • Crusaders 2026

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    Ennor has re-signed for another year

  • Super Rugby 2026

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    The Christchurch Super Round scheduled for ANZAC weekend will be announced next week. I have been told.

  • BOP 2025

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    @KiwiPie said in BOP 2025:

    Looking at that BOP starting XV, I reckon the ABs coaches told them to play Narawa at 14 given he was 13 last season and Carter was 14. Maybe the Steamers will mix it up though

    You could be on the money. Moorby for Waikato is another one playing 14, not 15. A big reason for him breaking his contract in France could be because the ABs want him back in the mix and see him as someone that can help provide depth in that right wing spot.

    Narawa playing in the centres would definitely have made more sense.