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2025 All Blacks v France series

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @brodean Those stats are pretty interesting in the context that I'll be pretty surprised if our midfield for the first test vs France is anything other than the tried and trusted combo of Jordie and Rieko.

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    @Chris-B

    Yeah I'd be stunned if it wasn't Jordie and RIeko.

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      As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

      But it's not. And he won't.

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        Some midfield attack stats:

        Gainline %
        79.5% AJ Lam
        76.7% Xavi Taele
        75.7% Riley Higgins
        67.9% Sam Gilbert
        67.7% Gideon Wrampling
        65.5% Corey Evans
        64.9% Rieko Ioane
        63.7% Quinn Tupaea
        62.0% Lalomilo Lalomilo
        61.5% David Havili
        60.9% Leicester Fainga'anuku
        60.8% Tanielu Tele'a
        60.5% Daniel Rona
        60.3% Billy Proctor
        60.2% Peter Umaga-Jensen
        59.6% Levi Aumua
        58.0% Bailyn Sullivan
        54.0% Jordie Barrett
        54.0% Anton Lienert-Brown
        53.6% Braydon Ennor

        Dominant Carry %
        62.3% AJ Lam
        56.8% Sam Gilbert
        54.4% Bailyn Sullivan
        52.5% Leicester Fainga'anuku
        52.2% Tanielu Tele'a
        51.2% Peter Umaga-Jensen
        48.0% Gideon Wrampling
        41.2% Quinn Tupaea
        39.7% Lalomilo Lalomilo
        37.8% Rieko Ioane
        37.0% Corey Evans
        35.5% Tamati Tua
        35.3% Billy Proctor
        34.5% Timoci Tavatavanawai
        34.3% Riley Higgins
        34.1% Jordie Barrett
        32.0% Braydon Ennor
        31.8% Levi Aumua
        31.0% Xavi Taele
        29.7% Daniel Rona

        Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
        74.0% AJ Lam
        70.8% Timoci Tavatavanawai
        70.2% Levi Aumua
        67.5% Quinn Tupaea
        66.3% Leicester Fainga'anuku
        64.0% Anton Lienert-Brown
        62.4% Peter Umaga-Jensen
        59.1% Bailyn Sullivan
        58.6% Billy Proctor
        58.1% Tanielu Tele'a
        58.1% Gideon Wrampling
        53.5% Lalomilo Lalomilo
        53.5% Xavi Taele
        50.5% Rieko Ioane
        50.0% Jordie Barrett
        50.0% Braydon Ennor
        48.6% Riley Higgins
        48.5% Tamati Tua
        42.3% David Havili
        38.3% Daniel Rona

        Tackle Evasion %
        44.8% Billy Proctor
        35.3% AJ Lam
        34.8% Timoci Tavatavanawai
        31.0% David Havili
        30.6% Leicester Fainga'anuku
        28.4% Tanielu Tele'a
        27.7% Sam Gilbert
        27.0% Levi Aumua
        26.7% Peter Umaga-Jensen
        26.4% Corey Evans
        26.3% Jordie Barrett
        25.9% Anton Lienert-Brown
        25.6% Bailyn Sullivan
        25.0% Braydon Ennor
        23.6% Lalomilo Lalomilo
        22.9% Tamati Tua
        21.7% Gideon Wrampling
        21.3% Daniel Rona
        18.8% Riley Higgins
        18.7% Quinn Tupaea
        15.9% Xavi Taele
        12.6% Rieko Ioane

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        @brodean are those blended over multiple seasons or different comps?

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @brodean are those blended over multiple seasons or different comps?

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          @taniwharugby the stats are for this Super Rugby season only https://theanalyst.com/club-rugby-stats

          I haven't updated them from a couple of weeks ago so there might be a few changes.

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            @taniwharugby the stats are for this Super Rugby season only https://theanalyst.com/club-rugby-stats

            I haven't updated them from a couple of weeks ago so there might be a few changes.

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            @brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

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              @brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

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              @KiwiMurph Yes URC, Fainga'anuku Top 14

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              • canefanC canefan

                @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                @canefan

                ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

                BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

                I'd go with:

                Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
                Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
                Rieko Ioane (Blues)
                Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
                AJ Lam (Blues)

                He racked up a couple in tests IIRC

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                @canefan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                @canefan

                ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

                BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

                I'd go with:

                Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
                Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
                Rieko Ioane (Blues)
                Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
                AJ Lam (Blues)

                He racked up a couple in tests IIRC

                3 YCs across the year, I think, against:

                Australia at Accor (65th minute, they scored straight away and we went down to 13 for a bit there)]
                Off the bench

                England at Twickenham (78th minute that nearly cost the match)
                Off the bench

                Italy (50th minute)
                Started the match

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                • gt12G gt12

                  @canefan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                  @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                  @canefan

                  ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

                  BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

                  I'd go with:

                  Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
                  Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
                  Rieko Ioane (Blues)
                  Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
                  AJ Lam (Blues)

                  He racked up a couple in tests IIRC

                  3 YCs across the year, I think, against:

                  Australia at Accor (65th minute, they scored straight away and we went down to 13 for a bit there)]
                  Off the bench

                  England at Twickenham (78th minute that nearly cost the match)
                  Off the bench

                  Italy (50th minute)
                  Started the match

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                  @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

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                    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                    @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                    Two off the bench
                    Post edited accordingly

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                      Two off the bench
                      Post edited accordingly

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                      @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                      Two off the bench
                      Post edited accordingly

                      So either start him and replace him at halftime, or bring him off the bench in the 79th minute. Problem solved.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                        @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                        @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                        Two off the bench
                        Post edited accordingly

                        So either start him and replace him at halftime, or bring him off the bench in the 79th minute. Problem solved.

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                        @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                        @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                        @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                        @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                        Two off the bench
                        Post edited accordingly

                        So either start him and replace him at halftime, or bring him off the bench in the 79th minute. Problem solved.

                        His YC per minute played stat would be fun to calculate

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                          a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                            a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                            @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                            Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

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                              a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                              @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                              Against Italy, he was co-captain I believe , we were on a warning and he ripped the ball after being told to let it go by the ref.

                              Barrett also got a Yc in that game I think.

                              The thread is a good read.

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                                a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                                @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                                Against Oz, I cant remember and the thread isn’t much help 🎣 Quite some discussion of his lack of leadership though

                                It was for hands in the ruck, according to the newspaper.

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                                  @Chris-B

                                  Yeah I'd be stunned if it wasn't Jordie and RIeko.

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                                  @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                  @Chris-B

                                  Yeah I'd be stunned if it wasn't Jordie and RIeko.

                                  I am kinda shocked by PUJ's versus Rieko's stats.
                                  It might be helpful if they were labelled at 12 or 13 but I guess too much work to separate when they've played both.

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                                    Yeah it was quite surprising to see guys that have regularly made big breaks, appear quite far down the gainline success stats

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                                      Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                                        Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

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                                        @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                                        Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

                                        The comment was made above that he got three YCS in the autumn series. The original YC he received in this game was for an off the ball tackle, but they then found the below and the YC was changed to a head high tackle. So two YCs in the same game.

                                        https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/1gi91zd/anton_lienertbrown_hit_on_theo_dan/

                                        a3847152-4ee3-47c4-a7dc-bf91a1a8dfd6-image.png

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                                        • B brodean

                                          Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

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                                          @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                          Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

                                          So as soon as someone falls off the tackle, it's not considered for gainline?

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