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2025 All Blacks v France series

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    mariner4life
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    #154

    As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

    But it's not. And he won't.

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      Some midfield attack stats:

      Gainline %
      79.5% AJ Lam
      76.7% Xavi Taele
      75.7% Riley Higgins
      67.9% Sam Gilbert
      67.7% Gideon Wrampling
      65.5% Corey Evans
      64.9% Rieko Ioane
      63.7% Quinn Tupaea
      62.0% Lalomilo Lalomilo
      61.5% David Havili
      60.9% Leicester Fainga'anuku
      60.8% Tanielu Tele'a
      60.5% Daniel Rona
      60.3% Billy Proctor
      60.2% Peter Umaga-Jensen
      59.6% Levi Aumua
      58.0% Bailyn Sullivan
      54.0% Jordie Barrett
      54.0% Anton Lienert-Brown
      53.6% Braydon Ennor

      Dominant Carry %
      62.3% AJ Lam
      56.8% Sam Gilbert
      54.4% Bailyn Sullivan
      52.5% Leicester Fainga'anuku
      52.2% Tanielu Tele'a
      51.2% Peter Umaga-Jensen
      48.0% Gideon Wrampling
      41.2% Quinn Tupaea
      39.7% Lalomilo Lalomilo
      37.8% Rieko Ioane
      37.0% Corey Evans
      35.5% Tamati Tua
      35.3% Billy Proctor
      34.5% Timoci Tavatavanawai
      34.3% Riley Higgins
      34.1% Jordie Barrett
      32.0% Braydon Ennor
      31.8% Levi Aumua
      31.0% Xavi Taele
      29.7% Daniel Rona

      Carries Committing 2+ Tacklers
      74.0% AJ Lam
      70.8% Timoci Tavatavanawai
      70.2% Levi Aumua
      67.5% Quinn Tupaea
      66.3% Leicester Fainga'anuku
      64.0% Anton Lienert-Brown
      62.4% Peter Umaga-Jensen
      59.1% Bailyn Sullivan
      58.6% Billy Proctor
      58.1% Tanielu Tele'a
      58.1% Gideon Wrampling
      53.5% Lalomilo Lalomilo
      53.5% Xavi Taele
      50.5% Rieko Ioane
      50.0% Jordie Barrett
      50.0% Braydon Ennor
      48.6% Riley Higgins
      48.5% Tamati Tua
      42.3% David Havili
      38.3% Daniel Rona

      Tackle Evasion %
      44.8% Billy Proctor
      35.3% AJ Lam
      34.8% Timoci Tavatavanawai
      31.0% David Havili
      30.6% Leicester Fainga'anuku
      28.4% Tanielu Tele'a
      27.7% Sam Gilbert
      27.0% Levi Aumua
      26.7% Peter Umaga-Jensen
      26.4% Corey Evans
      26.3% Jordie Barrett
      25.9% Anton Lienert-Brown
      25.6% Bailyn Sullivan
      25.0% Braydon Ennor
      23.6% Lalomilo Lalomilo
      22.9% Tamati Tua
      21.7% Gideon Wrampling
      21.3% Daniel Rona
      18.8% Riley Higgins
      18.7% Quinn Tupaea
      15.9% Xavi Taele
      12.6% Rieko Ioane

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      @brodean are those blended over multiple seasons or different comps?

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        @brodean are those blended over multiple seasons or different comps?

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        #156

        @taniwharugby the stats are for this Super Rugby season only https://theanalyst.com/club-rugby-stats

        I haven't updated them from a couple of weeks ago so there might be a few changes.

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          @taniwharugby the stats are for this Super Rugby season only https://theanalyst.com/club-rugby-stats

          I haven't updated them from a couple of weeks ago so there might be a few changes.

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          @brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

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            @brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

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            @KiwiMurph Yes URC, Fainga'anuku Top 14

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              @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

              @canefan

              ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

              BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

              I'd go with:

              Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
              Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
              Rieko Ioane (Blues)
              Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
              AJ Lam (Blues)

              He racked up a couple in tests IIRC

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              @canefan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

              @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

              @canefan

              ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

              BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

              I'd go with:

              Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
              Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
              Rieko Ioane (Blues)
              Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
              AJ Lam (Blues)

              He racked up a couple in tests IIRC

              3 YCs across the year, I think, against:

              Australia at Accor (65th minute, they scored straight away and we went down to 13 for a bit there)]
              Off the bench

              England at Twickenham (78th minute that nearly cost the match)
              Off the bench

              Italy (50th minute)
              Started the match

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                @canefan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                @canefan

                ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

                BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

                I'd go with:

                Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
                Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
                Rieko Ioane (Blues)
                Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
                AJ Lam (Blues)

                He racked up a couple in tests IIRC

                3 YCs across the year, I think, against:

                Australia at Accor (65th minute, they scored straight away and we went down to 13 for a bit there)]
                Off the bench

                England at Twickenham (78th minute that nearly cost the match)
                Off the bench

                Italy (50th minute)
                Started the match

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                @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

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                  @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

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                  #161

                  @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                  @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                  Two off the bench
                  Post edited accordingly

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                    @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                    Two off the bench
                    Post edited accordingly

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                    @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                    @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                    Two off the bench
                    Post edited accordingly

                    So either start him and replace him at halftime, or bring him off the bench in the 79th minute. Problem solved.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                      Two off the bench
                      Post edited accordingly

                      So either start him and replace him at halftime, or bring him off the bench in the 79th minute. Problem solved.

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                      @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      @gt12 as a replacement or starter?

                      Two off the bench
                      Post edited accordingly

                      So either start him and replace him at halftime, or bring him off the bench in the 79th minute. Problem solved.

                      His YC per minute played stat would be fun to calculate

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                        a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                          a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                          @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                          a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                          Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

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                            a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                            @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                            Against Italy, he was co-captain I believe , we were on a warning and he ripped the ball after being told to let it go by the ref.

                            Barrett also got a Yc in that game I think.

                            The thread is a good read.

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                              a least one YC a team one? might have been two

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                              @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                              Against Oz, I cant remember and the thread isn’t much help 🎣 Quite some discussion of his lack of leadership though

                              It was for hands in the ruck, according to the newspaper.

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                                @Chris-B

                                Yeah I'd be stunned if it wasn't Jordie and RIeko.

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                                @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                @Chris-B

                                Yeah I'd be stunned if it wasn't Jordie and RIeko.

                                I am kinda shocked by PUJ's versus Rieko's stats.
                                It might be helpful if they were labelled at 12 or 13 but I guess too much work to separate when they've played both.

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                                  Yeah it was quite surprising to see guys that have regularly made big breaks, appear quite far down the gainline success stats

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                                    Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

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                                      @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                      a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                                      Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

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                                      @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                      @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                      a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                                      Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

                                      The comment was made above that he got three YCS in the autumn series. The original YC he received in this game was for an off the ball tackle, but they then found the below and the YC was changed to a head high tackle. So two YCs in the same game.

                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/1gi91zd/anton_lienertbrown_hit_on_theo_dan/

                                      a3847152-4ee3-47c4-a7dc-bf91a1a8dfd6-image.png

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                                        Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

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                                        @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

                                        So as soon as someone falls off the tackle, it's not considered for gainline?

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                          @brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

                                          And Leicester and Tua...

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