2025 All Blacks v France series

[KiwiMurph]

@brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

[brodean]

@KiwiMurph Yes URC, Fainga'anuku Top 14

[gt12]

@canefan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@canefan

ALB didn't play a full season this year but he did last year. He had zero yellow cards in SRP and gave away 3 penalties for the whole season over 14 games.

BTW I wouldn't select ALB or David Havili but for different reasons.

I'd go with:

Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
Rieko Ioane (Blues)
Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
AJ Lam (Blues)

He racked up a couple in tests IIRC

3 YCs across the year, I think, against:

Australia at Accor (65th minute, they scored straight away and we went down to 13 for a bit there)]
Off the bench

England at Twickenham (78th minute that nearly cost the match)
Off the bench

Italy (50th minute)
Started the match

[Bones]

@gt12 as a replacement or starter?

[gt12]

@Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@gt12 as a replacement or starter?

Two off the bench
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[Bones]

@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@gt12 as a replacement or starter?

Two off the bench
Post edited accordingly

So either start him and replace him at halftime, or bring him off the bench in the 79th minute. Problem solved.

[gt12]

@Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@gt12 as a replacement or starter?

Two off the bench
Post edited accordingly

So either start him and replace him at halftime, or bring him off the bench in the 79th minute. Problem solved.

His YC per minute played stat would be fun to calculate

[ploughboy]

a least one YC a team one? might have been two

[gt12]

@ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

a least one YC a team one? might have been two

Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

[gt12]

@ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

a least one YC a team one? might have been two

Against Italy, he was co-captain I believe , we were on a warning and he ripped the ball after being told to let it go by the ref.

Barrett also got a Yc in that game I think.

The thread is a good read.

[gt12]

@ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

a least one YC a team one? might have been two

Against Oz, I cant remember and the thread isn’t much help Quite some discussion of his lack of leadership though

It was for hands in the ruck, according to the newspaper.

[nostrildamus]

@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@Chris-B

Yeah I'd be stunned if it wasn't Jordie and RIeko.

I am kinda shocked by PUJ's versus Rieko's stats.
It might be helpful if they were labelled at 12 or 13 but I guess too much work to separate when they've played both.

[Bones]

Yeah it was quite surprising to see guys that have regularly made big breaks, appear quite far down the gainline success stats

[brodean]

Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

[gt12]

@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

a least one YC a team one? might have been two

Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

The comment was made above that he got three YCS in the autumn series. The original YC he received in this game was for an off the ball tackle, but they then found the below and the YC was changed to a head high tackle. So two YCs in the same game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/1gi91zd/anton_lienertbrown_hit_on_theo_dan/

[Bones]

@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

So as soon as someone falls off the tackle, it's not considered for gainline?

[taniwharugby]

@KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

And Leicester and Tua...

[brodean]

@Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

So as soon as someone falls off the tackle, it's not considered for gainline?

It's not the percentage made over the gain line.

It's the percentage of times you make it over the gainline when you carry.

So if AJ Lam makes 100 carries then 79 of them will make it over the gain line.

When Jordie Barrett makes 100 carries then 54 of them will make it over the gain line.

[Jet]

@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

@ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

a least one YC a team one? might have been two

Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

Didn’t he actually get two yellow card offences in the same passage of play?

[gt12]

@Jet

Its the fern and all, but 5 posts up bro ️