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  • No QuarterN Online
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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    The worst AB coach since Wayne Smith. And who is Razor's advisor? Wayne Smith. All starting to make sense now.

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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    The worst AB coach since Wayne Smith. And who is Razor's advisor? Wayne Smith. All starting to make sense now.

    Two coaches that went straight from super rugby to ABs.....

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

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    replied to Unite last edited by
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    @Unite said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

    It is a fact that so much else being poor means that dogshit display of goal-kicking has hardly been mentioned.

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    wrote last edited by canefan
    #5236

    If we'd played even remotely up to our potential goal kicking wouldn't have mattered....

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    #5237

    If you make all your shots at goal and don’t receive yellow cards, you relieve pressure elsewhere, making the odd error less damaging and add pressure on the opposition on the scoreboard and with their own discipline. Those things just make the job harder.

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    The goal kicking wasn't perfect on Saturday, indeed it was poor.

    But focusing on that distracts from four more crucial area.

    1. Three Yellow Cards, two of which were very avoidable.
    2. Our backline only making 72 metres total in attack.
    3. Missing 40 tackles.
    4. Losing a significant majority of the aerial battles.

    Perfect goalkicking would be nice, but there are some more fundamental issues to fix as well.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Missing 40 tackles.

    This bit is concerning Fuck 40 missed tackles were we not trying or asleep.

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    @Chris Another issue was how many of the tackles the ABs made were really passive, letting Los Pumos get over the gain line with ease.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Chris Another issue was how many of the tackles the ABs made were really passive, letting Los Pumos get over the gain line with ease.

    Ethan B be like WTF?!

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    Will Razor name a squad for the Springboks games? Because I see SA and Australia have. Or is it just the squad that went to Argentina

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    @Unite said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

    Either Jordie or Richie kick a penalty and we win the RWC2023. It matters. We don't value it.

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    @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

    Will Razor name a squad for the Springboks games? Because I see SA and Australia have. Or is it just the squad that went to Argentina

    NZ just name a squad for the entirety of the Rugby Championship and bring in replacements if necessary.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    The worst AB coach since Wayne Smith. And who is Razor's advisor? Wayne Smith. All starting to make sense now.

    Really?

    Who was the best coach since Wayne Smith?

    Who was the second best coach since Wayne Smith?

    Who was their advisor?

    It wasn't Wayne Smith was it?

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    @Unite said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

    if - but we didn't. And there were numerous other easily identifiable issues.

    Parsons seems to be a passenger thinking the Titanic isn't sinking because his feet aren't wet.

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    @Unite said in All Blacks 2025:

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

    🙂

    Of course, Albornoz missed a penalty too but I guess in JP's eyes that's irrelevant.

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    Any word on Patty T? Been thinking that he could play in Boks 1 if he wore a flat fibreglass guard over his injury and had plenty of bandaging to
    keep it in place.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

    Any word on Patty T? Been thinking that he could play in Boks 1 if he wore a flat fibreglass guard over his injury and had plenty of bandaging to
    keep it in place.

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  • No QuarterN Online
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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    The worst AB coach since Wayne Smith. And who is Razor's advisor? Wayne Smith. All starting to make sense now.

    Really?

    Who was the best coach since Wayne Smith?

    Who was the second best coach since Wayne Smith?

    Who was their advisor?

    It wasn't Wayne Smith was it?

    My comment was tongue in cheek 🙂 Can't really overstate how good Wayne Smith has been for NZR. That said, there is something in the fact both Smith and Razor have struggled to go straight from Super to test level.

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    Great news to see Tamaiti Williams has signed until 2029, love it!
    Great work NZR etc, we need to hold these players.

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