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    upthelanders
    wrote last edited by
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    Will Razor name a squad for the Springboks games? Because I see SA and Australia have. Or is it just the squad that went to Argentina

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    @Unite said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

    Either Jordie or Richie kick a penalty and we win the RWC2023. It matters. We don't value it.

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    Mr Fish
    replied to upthelanders last edited by
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    @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

    Will Razor name a squad for the Springboks games? Because I see SA and Australia have. Or is it just the squad that went to Argentina

    NZ just name a squad for the entirety of the Rugby Championship and bring in replacements if necessary.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    The worst AB coach since Wayne Smith. And who is Razor's advisor? Wayne Smith. All starting to make sense now.

    Really?

    Who was the best coach since Wayne Smith?

    Who was the second best coach since Wayne Smith?

    Who was their advisor?

    It wasn't Wayne Smith was it?

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    antipodean
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    @Unite said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

    if - but we didn't. And there were numerous other easily identifiable issues.

    Parsons seems to be a passenger thinking the Titanic isn't sinking because his feet aren't wet.

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    replied to Unite last edited by
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    @Unite said in All Blacks 2025:

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

    🙂

    Of course, Albornoz missed a penalty too but I guess in JP's eyes that's irrelevant.

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    pakman
    wrote last edited by pakman
    #5248

    Any word on Patty T? Been thinking that he could play in Boks 1 if he wore a flat fibreglass guard over his injury and had plenty of bandaging to
    keep it in place.

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    antipodean
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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

    Any word on Patty T? Been thinking that he could play in Boks 1 if he wore a flat fibreglass guard over his injury and had plenty of bandaging to
    keep it in place.

    e09a2708-9c5b-469a-af44-16028c844216-image.png

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    No Quarter
    replied to Chris B. last edited by
    #5250

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    The worst AB coach since Wayne Smith. And who is Razor's advisor? Wayne Smith. All starting to make sense now.

    Really?

    Who was the best coach since Wayne Smith?

    Who was the second best coach since Wayne Smith?

    Who was their advisor?

    It wasn't Wayne Smith was it?

    My comment was tongue in cheek 🙂 Can't really overstate how good Wayne Smith has been for NZR. That said, there is something in the fact both Smith and Razor have struggled to go straight from Super to test level.

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    Dan54
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    Great news to see Tamaiti Williams has signed until 2029, love it!
    Great work NZR etc, we need to hold these players.

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    Bovidae
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    I thought that Williams was going back to Northland? Obviously not.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Chris
    replied to Bovidae last edited by
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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    I thought that Williams was going back to Northland? Obviously not.

    He has signed with Canterbury until 2029 as well as the Crusaders.So as you say Obviously not.

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    replied to Bovidae last edited by
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    @Bovidae there had been discussions, but that was prior to him making the ABs, and after that it went quiet.

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    Jet
    replied to nzzp last edited by
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    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Unite said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

    Either Jordie or Richie kick a penalty and we win the RWC2023. It matters. We don't value it.

    It's why Carter was under rated if anything. Money in the bank.

    Go and grab a beer, take a piss. 3 points in the bag by the time you come back.

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  • Chris B.C Online
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    Chris B.
    replied to No Quarter last edited by
    #5256

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    The worst AB coach since Wayne Smith. And who is Razor's advisor? Wayne Smith. All starting to make sense now.

    Really?

    Who was the best coach since Wayne Smith?

    Who was the second best coach since Wayne Smith?

    Who was their advisor?

    It wasn't Wayne Smith was it?

    My comment was tongue in cheek 🙂 Can't really overstate how good Wayne Smith has been for NZR. That said, there is something in the fact both Smith and Razor have struggled to go straight from Super to test level.

    Ha - lucky I didn't really savage you.

    I have trouble differentiating between tongue in cheek and total madness on the internet these days! 🙂

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    nzzp
    replied to Jet last edited by
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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    Money in the bank.

    He had off days. Outsanding generally, but there were days he struggled with the boot.

    I remember a game against the Bokke where he missed a lot ... even the best have off days.

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    replied to Jet last edited by
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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Unite said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

    Either Jordie or Richie kick a penalty and we win the RWC2023. It matters. We don't value it.

    It's why Carter was under rated if anything. Money in the bank.

    Go and grab a beer, take a piss. 3 points in the bag by the time you come back.

    I understand what you are hinting at here, but he really wasn't.

    One of the very best things about his career is that everyone pretty much knew right away that he was a generational player and potentially the best ever. I consider myself incredibly lucky to have watched him and McCaw for so long.

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  • MN5M Online
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    replied to gt12 last edited by
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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Unite said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

    Either Jordie or Richie kick a penalty and we win the RWC2023. It matters. We don't value it.

    It's why Carter was under rated if anything. Money in the bank.

    Go and grab a beer, take a piss. 3 points in the bag by the time you come back.

    I understand what you are hinting at here, but he really wasn't.

    One of the very best things about his career is that everyone pretty much knew right away that he was a generational player and potentially the best ever. I consider myself incredibly lucky to have watched him and McCaw for so long.

    Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.

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  • kiwiinmelbK Online
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    kiwiinmelb
    replied to nzzp last edited by
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    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    Money in the bank.

    He had off days. Outsanding generally, but there were days he struggled with the boot.

    I remember a game against the Bokke where he missed a lot ... even the best have off days.

    Probably more likely going through technique issues,

    I think the important part about Dan and other great kickers they dont choke in front of goal , he loved the big occasion

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    replied to MN5 last edited by
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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Unite said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

    Yes but as James Parsons said if we had kicked all our shots at goal the All Blacks would have won, so all is grand.

    Either Jordie or Richie kick a penalty and we win the RWC2023. It matters. We don't value it.

    It's why Carter was under rated if anything. Money in the bank.

    Go and grab a beer, take a piss. 3 points in the bag by the time you come back.

    I understand what you are hinting at here, but he really wasn't.

    One of the very best things about his career is that everyone pretty much knew right away that he was a generational player and potentially the best ever. I consider myself incredibly lucky to have watched him and McCaw for so long.

    Carter was never underrated. If anything Nonu was far more than him.

    Nonu's arc from potentially wasted talent to best ever in his position is one of the great AB stories.

    And he's still playing.

    He's one of the few players I'd actually like to meet.

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