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All Blacks 2025

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

    I'll hear you out. But, be specific.

    Who outplayed Sevu in the Super season?

    Sevu is a Super rugby superstar, but for the last few years he's been a test failure. All those options you mentioned had as good seasons this year. His year of being the one good Crusader was over 12 months ago ....

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    @Nepia I've given you my assessment. I may have forgotten someone (there must be another Canes wing) and maybe there's Pacifica wings who are eligible.

    But, it's not really surprising that we've been running with Sevu, Reiko and Will.

    We're honestly not far from Chay and Macca if you guys are dead set against Sevu. 🙂

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @Nepia I've given you my assessment. I may have forgotten someone (there must be another Canes wing) and maybe there's Pacifica wings who are eligible.

      But, it's not really surprising that we've been running with Sevu, Reiko and Will.

      We're honestly not far from Chay and Macca if you guys are dead set against Sevu. 🙂

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      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Nepia I've given you my assessment. I may have forgotten someone (there must be another Canes wing) and maybe there's Pacifica wings who are eligible.

      But, it's not really surprising that we've been running with Sevu, Reiko and Will.

      We're honestly not far from Chay and Macca if you guys are dead set against Sevu. 🙂

      And I've given you my correct assessment.

      I'm not Bones, I'd be ok with Springer making it eventually. I'm actually looking forward to seeing home your home town boy Taumoefolau goes for the Chiefs next year.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Nepia I've given you my assessment. I may have forgotten someone (there must be another Canes wing) and maybe there's Pacifica wings who are eligible.

        But, it's not really surprising that we've been running with Sevu, Reiko and Will.

        We're honestly not far from Chay and Macca if you guys are dead set against Sevu. 🙂

        And I've given you my correct assessment.

        I'm not Bones, I'd be ok with Springer making it eventually. I'm actually looking forward to seeing home your home town boy Taumoefolau goes for the Chiefs next year.

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        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Nepia I've given you my assessment. I may have forgotten someone (there must be another Canes wing) and maybe there's Pacifica wings who are eligible.

        But, it's not really surprising that we've been running with Sevu, Reiko and Will.

        We're honestly not far from Chay and Macca if you guys are dead set against Sevu. 🙂

        And I've given you my correct assessment.

        I'm not Bones, I'd be ok with Springer making it eventually. I'm actually looking forward to seeing home your home town boy Taumoefolau goes for the Chiefs next year.

        James Lowe says hi.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Nepia I've given you my assessment. I may have forgotten someone (there must be another Canes wing) and maybe there's Pacifica wings who are eligible.

          But, it's not really surprising that we've been running with Sevu, Reiko and Will.

          We're honestly not far from Chay and Macca if you guys are dead set against Sevu. 🙂

          And I've given you my correct assessment.

          I'm not Bones, I'd be ok with Springer making it eventually. I'm actually looking forward to seeing home your home town boy Taumoefolau goes for the Chiefs next year.

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          @Nepia If you have, I haven't comprehended it.

          Pick your four best wings, ignoring injury - and if you pick Jordan, pick a fifth, because he's the preferred fullback.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @Nepia If you have, I haven't comprehended it.

            Pick your four best wings, ignoring injury - and if you pick Jordan, pick a fifth, because he's the preferred fullback.

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            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Nepia If you have, I haven't comprehended it.

            Pick your four best wings, ignoring injury - and if you pick Jordan, pick a fifth, because he's the preferred fullback.

            I gave you my correct assessment of Reece's test form in general and Super form this year. You're clearly rating him based on his Super form last year.

            In all honesty I don't care about it enough to pick four ... as long as Reece isn't there I don't care.

            I do have one question though, why is the preferred fullback playing wing when there are fit wings in the squad?

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @ShaquilleOatmeal Yeah - it's a pity Narawa didn't get a whole test and some more to see what he can do.

              But, it's not a compelling argument for me to say we should drop ordinary ABs for guys who are worse.

              It doesn't look like a vintage wing crop - ala Doug, Joe, Sivi, Rico and the rest.

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              @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

              But, it's not a compelling argument for me to say we should drop ordinary ABs for guys who are worse.

              It’s not a compelling argument that someone who isn’t any good at test level should get to keep playing test rugby because they’re good at a lower level.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @Goffman said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                @Chris-B the public doesn't give the ABs free swings though.

                I know - it's a big part of the problem! There is very little to encourage taking risks.

                We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

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                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

                Not just the assistants. All of them

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                  The cracks have been papered over for a while.

                  But that was utterly shite. Where do we go from here?

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    The cracks have been papered over for a while.

                    But that was utterly shite. Where do we go from here?

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                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                    The cracks have been papered over for a while.

                    Bu that was utterly shite. Where do we go from here?

                    To a loss at Eden Park?

                    Nothing will change until the media develop the balls to criticise. And that won't happen until they sense the public sentiment has turned.

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                      The cracks have been papered over for a while.

                      Bu that was utterly shite. Where do we go from here?

                      To a loss at Eden Park?

                      Nothing will change until the media develop the balls to criticise. And that won't happen until they sense the public sentiment has turned.

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                      @antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.

                      Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        @antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.

                        Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?

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                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.

                        Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?

                        I wouldn’t worry about that. The Scots will shit the bed as usual

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.

                          Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?

                          I wouldn’t worry about that. The Scots will shit the bed as usual

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                          @MN5 Nah. On current form, the Scots backline would carve ours up.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            @MN5 Nah. On current form, the Scots backline would carve ours up.

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                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @MN5 Nah. On current form, the Scots backline would carve ours up.

                            I’ve waited my whole life for a statement like this

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              Is Lomax still our top tight head as some papers say? Methinks he has competition!

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                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Is Lomax still our top tight head as some papers say? Methinks he has competition!

                              He's out of form. We were doing much better with Newell starting and Tosi finishing. Tosi is a better bench option than Newell or Lomax.

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                                We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

                                Not just the assistants. All of them

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                                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                                We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

                                Not just the assistants. All of them

                                Who would you bring in Duluth?
                                Not sure if Joe Schmidt (if it's true he can't work with current NZRFU) would come in, but he must be 1st choice.
                                Then Jamie Joseph, Vern Cotter, others?

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                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

                                  Not just the assistants. All of them

                                  Who would you bring in Duluth?
                                  Not sure if Joe Schmidt (if it's true he can't work with current NZRFU) would come in, but he must be 1st choice.
                                  Then Jamie Joseph, Vern Cotter, others?

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                                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

                                  Not just the assistants. All of them

                                  Who would you bring in Duluth?
                                  Not sure if Joe Schmidt (if it's true he can't work with current NZRFU) would come in, but he must be 1st choice.
                                  Then Jamie Joseph, Vern Cotter, others?

                                  That's a good start

                                  It's pointless because it won't happen. Robertson is almost unsackable.. it would cost too much. Maybe he can be convinced to act with honour? I doubt it.

                                  My prediction is there will be a couple of scapegoats at the end of the year - Hansen & Ellison.

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                                    https://www.rugbydatabase.co.nz/team/coach-list.php?teamId=3

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                                      😞

                                      Screenshot 2025-09-13 214346.png

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                                        😞

                                        Screenshot 2025-09-13 214346.png

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                                        @mikedogz said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        😞

                                        Screenshot 2025-09-13 214346.png

                                        Also I'm pretty sure the 38 points Argentina got last year was the highest amount conceded at home

                                        Robertson's side has the top two places now

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                                          Our defensive pattern fell apart in the second half and our captain offered zero leadership in the last 40 minutes.

                                          Plenty to fix, to put it mildly, but dumping Tamati Elllison as Defence coach and Scott Barrett as Captain are probably the best places to start.

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