All Blacks 2025
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia I've given you my assessment. I may have forgotten someone (there must be another Canes wing) and maybe there's Pacifica wings who are eligible.
But, it's not really surprising that we've been running with Sevu, Reiko and Will.
We're honestly not far from Chay and Macca if you guys are dead set against Sevu.
And I've given you my correct assessment.
I'm not Bones, I'd be ok with Springer making it eventually. I'm actually looking forward to seeing home your home town boy Taumoefolau goes for the Chiefs next year.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia I've given you my assessment. I may have forgotten someone (there must be another Canes wing) and maybe there's Pacifica wings who are eligible.
But, it's not really surprising that we've been running with Sevu, Reiko and Will.
We're honestly not far from Chay and Macca if you guys are dead set against Sevu.
And I've given you my correct assessment.
I'm not Bones, I'd be ok with Springer making it eventually. I'm actually looking forward to seeing home your home town boy Taumoefolau goes for the Chiefs next year.
James Lowe says hi.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia I've given you my assessment. I may have forgotten someone (there must be another Canes wing) and maybe there's Pacifica wings who are eligible.
But, it's not really surprising that we've been running with Sevu, Reiko and Will.
We're honestly not far from Chay and Macca if you guys are dead set against Sevu.
And I've given you my correct assessment.
I'm not Bones, I'd be ok with Springer making it eventually. I'm actually looking forward to seeing home your home town boy Taumoefolau goes for the Chiefs next year.
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@Nepia If you have, I haven't comprehended it.
Pick your four best wings, ignoring injury - and if you pick Jordan, pick a fifth, because he's the preferred fullback.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia If you have, I haven't comprehended it.
Pick your four best wings, ignoring injury - and if you pick Jordan, pick a fifth, because he's the preferred fullback.
I gave you my correct assessment of Reece's test form in general and Super form this year. You're clearly rating him based on his Super form last year.
In all honesty I don't care about it enough to pick four ... as long as Reece isn't there I don't care.
I do have one question though, why is the preferred fullback playing wing when there are fit wings in the squad?
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@ShaquilleOatmeal Yeah - it's a pity Narawa didn't get a whole test and some more to see what he can do.
But, it's not a compelling argument for me to say we should drop ordinary ABs for guys who are worse.
It doesn't look like a vintage wing crop - ala Doug, Joe, Sivi, Rico and the rest.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
But, it's not a compelling argument for me to say we should drop ordinary ABs for guys who are worse.
It’s not a compelling argument that someone who isn’t any good at test level should get to keep playing test rugby because they’re good at a lower level.
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@Goffman said in All Blacks v Springboks I:
@Chris-B the public doesn't give the ABs free swings though.
I know - it's a big part of the problem! There is very little to encourage taking risks.
We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.
Not just the assistants. All of them
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The cracks have been papered over for a while.
But that was utterly shite. Where do we go from here?
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
The cracks have been papered over for a while.
Bu that was utterly shite. Where do we go from here?
To a loss at Eden Park?
Nothing will change until the media develop the balls to criticise. And that won't happen until they sense the public sentiment has turned.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
The cracks have been papered over for a while.
Bu that was utterly shite. Where do we go from here?
To a loss at Eden Park?
Nothing will change until the media develop the balls to criticise. And that won't happen until they sense the public sentiment has turned.
@antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.
Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?
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@antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.
Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.
Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?
I wouldn’t worry about that. The Scots will shit the bed as usual
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.
Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?
I wouldn’t worry about that. The Scots will shit the bed as usual
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Is Lomax still our top tight head as some papers say? Methinks he has competition!
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
Is Lomax still our top tight head as some papers say? Methinks he has competition!
He's out of form. We were doing much better with Newell starting and Tosi finishing. Tosi is a better bench option than Newell or Lomax.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.
Not just the assistants. All of them
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.
Not just the assistants. All of them
Who would you bring in Duluth?
Not sure if Joe Schmidt (if it's true he can't work with current NZRFU) would come in, but he must be 1st choice.
Then Jamie Joseph, Vern Cotter, others? -
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.
Not just the assistants. All of them
Who would you bring in Duluth?
Not sure if Joe Schmidt (if it's true he can't work with current NZRFU) would come in, but he must be 1st choice.
Then Jamie Joseph, Vern Cotter, others?@Frank said in All Blacks 2025:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.
Not just the assistants. All of them
Who would you bring in Duluth?
Not sure if Joe Schmidt (if it's true he can't work with current NZRFU) would come in, but he must be 1st choice.
Then Jamie Joseph, Vern Cotter, others?That's a good start
It's pointless because it won't happen. Robertson is almost unsackable.. it would cost too much. Maybe he can be convinced to act with honour? I doubt it.
My prediction is there will be a couple of scapegoats at the end of the year - Hansen & Ellison.
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Our defensive pattern fell apart in the second half and our captain offered zero leadership in the last 40 minutes.
Plenty to fix, to put it mildly, but dumping Tamati Elllison as Defence coach and Scott Barrett as Captain are probably the best places to start.
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Need a caretaker coach. Anyone would be better. Take one of the Super Rugby management teams.
Depending on the availability, need big changes for next game:
1 Norris
2 Taylor
3 Newell
4 Tuipulotu
5 Holland
6 Parker
7 Papalii
8 Sotutu9 ?
10 DMac
11 Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 ?
15 Love16 Taukei'aho
17 Williams
18 Tosi
19 Vaa'i
20 Savea
21 ?
22 Tupaea
23 Jordan -
Need a caretaker coach. Anyone would be better. Take one of the Super Rugby management teams.
Depending on the availability, need big changes for next game:
1 Norris
2 Taylor
3 Newell
4 Tuipulotu
5 Holland
6 Parker
7 Papalii
8 Sotutu9 ?
10 DMac
11 Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 ?
15 Love16 Taukei'aho
17 Williams
18 Tosi
19 Vaa'i
20 Savea
21 ?
22 Tupaea
23 Jordan@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
Need a caretaker coach. Anyone would be better. Take one of the Super Rugby management teams.
Depending on the availability, need big changes for next game:
1 Norris
2 Taylor
3 Newell
4 Tuipulotu
5 Holland
6 Parker
7 Papalii
8 Sotutu9 ?
10 DMac
11 Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 ?
15 Love16 Taukei'aho
17 Williams
18 Tosi
19 Vaa'i
20 Savea
21 ?
22 Tupaea
23 JordanI’m disappointed you’re not gonna chuck Akira Ioane in there for an all Blues trio
