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All Blacks 2025

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nepia I've given you my assessment. I may have forgotten someone (there must be another Canes wing) and maybe there's Pacifica wings who are eligible.

    But, it's not really surprising that we've been running with Sevu, Reiko and Will.

    We're honestly not far from Chay and Macca if you guys are dead set against Sevu. 🙂

    And I've given you my correct assessment.

    I'm not Bones, I'd be ok with Springer making it eventually. I'm actually looking forward to seeing home your home town boy Taumoefolau goes for the Chiefs next year.

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    @Nepia If you have, I haven't comprehended it.

    Pick your four best wings, ignoring injury - and if you pick Jordan, pick a fifth, because he's the preferred fullback.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @Nepia If you have, I haven't comprehended it.

      Pick your four best wings, ignoring injury - and if you pick Jordan, pick a fifth, because he's the preferred fullback.

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      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Nepia If you have, I haven't comprehended it.

      Pick your four best wings, ignoring injury - and if you pick Jordan, pick a fifth, because he's the preferred fullback.

      I gave you my correct assessment of Reece's test form in general and Super form this year. You're clearly rating him based on his Super form last year.

      In all honesty I don't care about it enough to pick four ... as long as Reece isn't there I don't care.

      I do have one question though, why is the preferred fullback playing wing when there are fit wings in the squad?

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @ShaquilleOatmeal Yeah - it's a pity Narawa didn't get a whole test and some more to see what he can do.

        But, it's not a compelling argument for me to say we should drop ordinary ABs for guys who are worse.

        It doesn't look like a vintage wing crop - ala Doug, Joe, Sivi, Rico and the rest.

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        @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

        But, it's not a compelling argument for me to say we should drop ordinary ABs for guys who are worse.

        It’s not a compelling argument that someone who isn’t any good at test level should get to keep playing test rugby because they’re good at a lower level.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @Goffman said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

          @Chris-B the public doesn't give the ABs free swings though.

          I know - it's a big part of the problem! There is very little to encourage taking risks.

          We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

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          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

          We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

          Not just the assistants. All of them

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            #5724

            The cracks have been papered over for a while.

            But that was utterly shite. Where do we go from here?

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            • sparkyS sparky

              The cracks have been papered over for a while.

              But that was utterly shite. Where do we go from here?

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              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              The cracks have been papered over for a while.

              Bu that was utterly shite. Where do we go from here?

              To a loss at Eden Park?

              Nothing will change until the media develop the balls to criticise. And that won't happen until they sense the public sentiment has turned.

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                The cracks have been papered over for a while.

                Bu that was utterly shite. Where do we go from here?

                To a loss at Eden Park?

                Nothing will change until the media develop the balls to criticise. And that won't happen until they sense the public sentiment has turned.

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                @antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.

                Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  @antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.

                  Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?

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                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.

                  Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?

                  I wouldn’t worry about that. The Scots will shit the bed as usual

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @antipodean And a first ever loss at Murrayfield too.

                    Seriously, how long are the sponsors going to tolerate this shit? If you were a big multi-national business with options, why would you want to be associated with the current All Blacks set-up?

                    I wouldn’t worry about that. The Scots will shit the bed as usual

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                    @MN5 Nah. On current form, the Scots backline would carve ours up.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      @MN5 Nah. On current form, the Scots backline would carve ours up.

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                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @MN5 Nah. On current form, the Scots backline would carve ours up.

                      I’ve waited my whole life for a statement like this

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        Is Lomax still our top tight head as some papers say? Methinks he has competition!

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                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Is Lomax still our top tight head as some papers say? Methinks he has competition!

                        He's out of form. We were doing much better with Newell starting and Tosi finishing. Tosi is a better bench option than Newell or Lomax.

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                          We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

                          Not just the assistants. All of them

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                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                          We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

                          Not just the assistants. All of them

                          Who would you bring in Duluth?
                          Not sure if Joe Schmidt (if it's true he can't work with current NZRFU) would come in, but he must be 1st choice.
                          Then Jamie Joseph, Vern Cotter, others?

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                          • F Frank

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                            We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

                            Not just the assistants. All of them

                            Who would you bring in Duluth?
                            Not sure if Joe Schmidt (if it's true he can't work with current NZRFU) would come in, but he must be 1st choice.
                            Then Jamie Joseph, Vern Cotter, others?

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                            @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                            We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

                            Not just the assistants. All of them

                            Who would you bring in Duluth?
                            Not sure if Joe Schmidt (if it's true he can't work with current NZRFU) would come in, but he must be 1st choice.
                            Then Jamie Joseph, Vern Cotter, others?

                            That's a good start

                            It's pointless because it won't happen. Robertson is almost unsackable.. it would cost too much. Maybe he can be convinced to act with honour? I doubt it.

                            My prediction is there will be a couple of scapegoats at the end of the year - Hansen & Ellison.

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                              https://www.rugbydatabase.co.nz/team/coach-list.php?teamId=3

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                                😞

                                Screenshot 2025-09-13 214346.png

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                                • mikedogzM mikedogz

                                  😞

                                  Screenshot 2025-09-13 214346.png

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                                  @mikedogz said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  😞

                                  Screenshot 2025-09-13 214346.png

                                  Also I'm pretty sure the 38 points Argentina got last year was the highest amount conceded at home

                                  Robertson's side has the top two places now

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                                    Our defensive pattern fell apart in the second half and our captain offered zero leadership in the last 40 minutes.

                                    Plenty to fix, to put it mildly, but dumping Tamati Elllison as Defence coach and Scott Barrett as Captain are probably the best places to start.

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                                      Need a caretaker coach. Anyone would be better. Take one of the Super Rugby management teams.

                                      Depending on the availability, need big changes for next game:

                                      1 Norris
                                      2 Taylor
                                      3 Newell
                                      4 Tuipulotu
                                      5 Holland
                                      6 Parker
                                      7 Papalii
                                      8 Sotutu

                                      9 ?
                                      10 DMac
                                      11 Clarke
                                      12 J Barrett
                                      13 R Ioane
                                      14 ?
                                      15 Love

                                      16 Taukei'aho
                                      17 Williams
                                      18 Tosi
                                      19 Vaa'i
                                      20 Savea
                                      21 ?
                                      22 Tupaea
                                      23 Jordan

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        Need a caretaker coach. Anyone would be better. Take one of the Super Rugby management teams.

                                        Depending on the availability, need big changes for next game:

                                        1 Norris
                                        2 Taylor
                                        3 Newell
                                        4 Tuipulotu
                                        5 Holland
                                        6 Parker
                                        7 Papalii
                                        8 Sotutu

                                        9 ?
                                        10 DMac
                                        11 Clarke
                                        12 J Barrett
                                        13 R Ioane
                                        14 ?
                                        15 Love

                                        16 Taukei'aho
                                        17 Williams
                                        18 Tosi
                                        19 Vaa'i
                                        20 Savea
                                        21 ?
                                        22 Tupaea
                                        23 Jordan

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                                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Need a caretaker coach. Anyone would be better. Take one of the Super Rugby management teams.

                                        Depending on the availability, need big changes for next game:

                                        1 Norris
                                        2 Taylor
                                        3 Newell
                                        4 Tuipulotu
                                        5 Holland
                                        6 Parker
                                        7 Papalii
                                        8 Sotutu

                                        9 ?
                                        10 DMac
                                        11 Clarke
                                        12 J Barrett
                                        13 R Ioane
                                        14 ?
                                        15 Love

                                        16 Taukei'aho
                                        17 Williams
                                        18 Tosi
                                        19 Vaa'i
                                        20 Savea
                                        21 ?
                                        22 Tupaea
                                        23 Jordan

                                        I’m disappointed you’re not gonna chuck Akira Ioane in there for an all Blues trio

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Need a caretaker coach. Anyone would be better. Take one of the Super Rugby management teams.

                                          Depending on the availability, need big changes for next game:

                                          1 Norris
                                          2 Taylor
                                          3 Newell
                                          4 Tuipulotu
                                          5 Holland
                                          6 Parker
                                          7 Papalii
                                          8 Sotutu

                                          9 ?
                                          10 DMac
                                          11 Clarke
                                          12 J Barrett
                                          13 R Ioane
                                          14 ?
                                          15 Love

                                          16 Taukei'aho
                                          17 Williams
                                          18 Tosi
                                          19 Vaa'i
                                          20 Savea
                                          21 ?
                                          22 Tupaea
                                          23 Jordan

                                          I’m disappointed you’re not gonna chuck Akira Ioane in there for an all Blues trio

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                                          @MN5 Doesn't have Mounga's agent.

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