All Blacks 2025
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Let's not go down the "Sack Foster - he's the root of all the problems in NZ rugby" road again. We all know how that worked out with Coach Jesus
Take a deep breath, stay calm, identify the problems & their causes and then devise and implement an improvement plan. Maybe some short-term actions - just make sure they aren't kicking cans down the road.
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@jimmyb I've never seen Jamie Joseph's sides give up which is definitely one up on Scott Robertson. We can't have an All Blacks coach who creates a culture where players stop playing for the jersey. He needs to go!
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I've never seen Jamie Joseph's sides give up which is definitely one up on Scott Robertson
I've seen shit play and panic, but I've never seen ANY AB coaches side give up. Today was a first.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I've never seen Jamie Joseph's sides give up which is definitely one up on Scott Robertson
I've seen shit play and panic, but I've never seen ANY AB coaches side give up. Today was a first.
@Victor-Meldrew Which is exactly why I think, with regret, Scott Robertson needs to be shown the door.
He didn't help himself with an appalling post-match press conference as well.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Scott Robertson has been found out as a massive dud and should be relieved of his duties.
Just pay the compensation and let him go.
I'd approach Jamie Joseph and Vern Cotter to be the caretakers for the Bledisloe Cup, then Joe Schmidt as the new boss for the EOYT through to the World Cup campaign.
Jamie Joseph is not the coach you think he is. One good year with the highlanders (with an incredibly good squad), took over a Japanese team built by Eddie jones and actually delivered worse results over all. Two years at the sun wolves was a shit show.
Comes back to the highlanders and they’re actually worse than they were post season. The bloke can’t coach without Tony brown. You’d be replacing a Canterbury yes man with an Otago yes man
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Even in the post match presser you can see Robertson looking at Scooter mid question as if to say "can you answer this one for me?".
There is not an Alpha Male "ive got this" vibe off him at all.
You can imagine them all laughing and dancing to music when he walks into the changing room as opposed to the aura an Alex Ferguson would hold, where you would be afraid to even make eye contact.
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@jimmyb There's also a lot of bad culture, bad player stuff with Joseph. Don't want him anywhere near the ABs
@Tim Needs must, but yeah perhaps Vern Cotter or Warren Gatland or Milton Haig would be a better interim HC until or if Joe Schmidt is available.
What seems obvious to me is that Scott Robertson cannot continue as All Blacks Head Coach. We've reached the end of that road.
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Has there been any stuff on how the players interact with Robertson? We heard loads of stuff on how Foster worked with the players.
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Has there been any stuff on how the players interact with Robertson? We heard loads of stuff on how Foster worked with the players.
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@Tim Needs must, but yeah perhaps Vern Cotter or Warren Gatland or Milton Haig would be a better interim HC until or if Joe Schmidt is available.
What seems obvious to me is that Scott Robertson cannot continue as All Blacks Head Coach. We've reached the end of that road.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim Needs must, but yeah perhaps Vern Cotter or Warren Gatland or Milton Haig would be a better interim HC until or if Joe Schmidt is available.
These guys should be used to run a slide-rule over the coaches and the team. Find out what's wrong first.
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@Victor-Meldrew He has overlooked some very bad stuff to recruit players. Would be a huge risk for NZR to have him involved.
No thanks, no way.
@Tim said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew He has overlooked some very bad stuff to recruit players. Would be a huge risk for NZR to have him involved.
No thanks, no way.
Did you cross-post?
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@Tim Needs must, but yeah perhaps Vern Cotter or Warren Gatland or Milton Haig would be a better interim HC until or if Joe Schmidt is available.
What seems obvious to me is that Scott Robertson cannot continue as All Blacks Head Coach. We've reached the end of that road.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Tim Needs must, but yeah perhaps Vern Cotter or Warren Gatland or Milton Haig would be a better interim HC until or if Joe Schmidt is available.
What seems obvious to me is that Scott Robertson cannot continue as All Blacks Head Coach. We've reached the end of that road.
He looks a beaten docket to me.
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Even in the post match presser you can see Robertson looking at Scooter mid question as if to say "can you answer this one for me?".
There is not an Alpha Male "ive got this" vibe off him at all.
You can imagine them all laughing and dancing to music when he walks into the changing room as opposed to the aura an Alex Ferguson would hold, where you would be afraid to even make eye contact.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
You can imagine them all laughing and dancing to music when he walks into the changing room as opposed to the aura an Alex Ferguson would hold, where you would be afraid to even make eye contact.
Just had to post this. from the best sports comedy ever.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
2011 and 2015 happened because of lessons learned in 2007
I think 2011 happened because of lessons learned in 2009 and how we changed our gameplan in 2010.
2015 was because we largely had consistency and a core group throughout that 2012-2015 period.
@DaGrubster i agree with Snakey. When you look at the overall collection of talent in that 2007 squad, we were loaded. Injuries, disjointed play, rotation and no luck, we’re our downfall.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
2011 and 2015 happened because of lessons learned in 2007
I think 2011 happened because of lessons learned in 2009 and how we changed our gameplan in 2010.
2015 was because we largely had consistency and a core group throughout that 2012-2015 period.
@DaGrubster i agree with Snakey. When you look at the overall collection of talent in that 2007 squad, we were loaded. Injuries, disjointed play, rotation and no luck, we’re our downfall.
Yeah, we were our own worst enemies in that World cup.
We had an incredible squad but we conspired to not get our squad in the best shape it could be for that tournament.
And then our nemesis showed up in the wtr final
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@jimmyb I've never seen Jamie Joseph's sides give up which is definitely one up on Scott Robertson. We can't have an All Blacks coach who creates a culture where players stop playing for the jersey. He needs to go!
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@jimmyb I've never seen Jamie Joseph's sides give up which is definitely one up on Scott Robertson. We can't have an All Blacks coach who creates a culture where players stop playing for the jersey. He needs to go!
Completely agree. Anyone who thinks JJ is the answer is a fucking moron
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2025:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.
Not just the assistants. All of them
Who would you bring in Duluth?
Not sure if Joe Schmidt (if it's true he can't work with current NZRFU) would come in, but he must be 1st choice.
Then Jamie Joseph, Vern Cotter, others?Joseph, Brown and Rennie/Filippo. Schmidt as an advisor.
@Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?
I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.
Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.
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@Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?
I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.
Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?
I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.
Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.
And the team is a bunch of fucking midgets from 1-15
