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  • sparkyS sparky

    @Tim Needs must, but yeah perhaps Vern Cotter or Warren Gatland or Milton Haig would be a better interim HC until or if Joe Schmidt is available.

    What seems obvious to me is that Scott Robertson cannot continue as All Blacks Head Coach. We've reached the end of that road.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Tim Needs must, but yeah perhaps Vern Cotter or Warren Gatland or Milton Haig would be a better interim HC until or if Joe Schmidt is available.

    These guys should be used to run a slide-rule over the coaches and the team. Find out what's wrong first.

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    • TimT Tim

      @Victor-Meldrew He has overlooked some very bad stuff to recruit players. Would be a huge risk for NZR to have him involved.

      No thanks, no way.

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      @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Victor-Meldrew He has overlooked some very bad stuff to recruit players. Would be a huge risk for NZR to have him involved.

      No thanks, no way.

      Did you cross-post?

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      • sparkyS sparky

        @Tim Needs must, but yeah perhaps Vern Cotter or Warren Gatland or Milton Haig would be a better interim HC until or if Joe Schmidt is available.

        What seems obvious to me is that Scott Robertson cannot continue as All Blacks Head Coach. We've reached the end of that road.

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        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Tim Needs must, but yeah perhaps Vern Cotter or Warren Gatland or Milton Haig would be a better interim HC until or if Joe Schmidt is available.

        What seems obvious to me is that Scott Robertson cannot continue as All Blacks Head Coach. We've reached the end of that road.

        He looks a beaten docket to me.

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          Even in the post match presser you can see Robertson looking at Scooter mid question as if to say "can you answer this one for me?".

          There is not an Alpha Male "ive got this" vibe off him at all.

          You can imagine them all laughing and dancing to music when he walks into the changing room as opposed to the aura an Alex Ferguson would hold, where you would be afraid to even make eye contact.

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          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

          You can imagine them all laughing and dancing to music when he walks into the changing room as opposed to the aura an Alex Ferguson would hold, where you would be afraid to even make eye contact.

          Just had to post this. from the best sports comedy ever.

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            We live in an era where Anton Lienert-Brown has played 87 tests. He is just a slow slug. There is no accountability for coach favourites.

            Good lord he is shit.

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              Maybe Josh Lord can be drafted into the team?

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                2011 and 2015 happened because of lessons learned in 2007

                I think 2011 happened because of lessons learned in 2009 and how we changed our gameplan in 2010.

                2015 was because we largely had consistency and a core group throughout that 2012-2015 period.

                @DaGrubster i agree with Snakey. When you look at the overall collection of talent in that 2007 squad, we were loaded. Injuries, disjointed play, rotation and no luck, we’re our downfall.

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                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                2011 and 2015 happened because of lessons learned in 2007

                I think 2011 happened because of lessons learned in 2009 and how we changed our gameplan in 2010.

                2015 was because we largely had consistency and a core group throughout that 2012-2015 period.

                @DaGrubster i agree with Snakey. When you look at the overall collection of talent in that 2007 squad, we were loaded. Injuries, disjointed play, rotation and no luck, we’re our downfall.

                Yeah, we were our own worst enemies in that World cup.

                We had an incredible squad but we conspired to not get our squad in the best shape it could be for that tournament.

                And then our nemesis showed up in the wtr final

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                  There needs to be a clear message from NZR to Scott Robertson and his pals on Monday morning.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @jimmyb I've never seen Jamie Joseph's sides give up which is definitely one up on Scott Robertson. We can't have an All Blacks coach who creates a culture where players stop playing for the jersey. He needs to go!

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                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @jimmyb I've never seen Jamie Joseph's sides give up which is definitely one up on Scott Robertson. We can't have an All Blacks coach who creates a culture where players stop playing for the jersey. He needs to go!

                    Completely agree. Anyone who thinks JJ is the answer is a fucking moron

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                      The media in NZ are a major problem for the ABs.

                      What on earth is this?

                      https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360818892/all-blacks-could-benefit-wallabies-breaking-23-year-bledisloe-cup-win-drought

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                        We lost last week and the rowdy consensus here seemed to be that all the Ass. Coaches except Ryan should be rolled.

                        Not just the assistants. All of them

                        Who would you bring in Duluth?
                        Not sure if Joe Schmidt (if it's true he can't work with current NZRFU) would come in, but he must be 1st choice.
                        Then Jamie Joseph, Vern Cotter, others?

                        Joseph, Brown and Rennie/Filippo. Schmidt as an advisor.

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                        @Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?

                        I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.

                        Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.

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                          @Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?

                          I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.

                          Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.

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                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?

                          I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.

                          Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.

                          And the team is a bunch of fucking midgets from 1-15

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                            The media in NZ are a major problem for the ABs.

                            What on earth is this?

                            https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360818892/all-blacks-could-benefit-wallabies-breaking-23-year-bledisloe-cup-win-drought

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                            @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                            The media in NZ are a major problem for the ABs.

                            What on earth is this?

                            https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360818892/all-blacks-could-benefit-wallabies-breaking-23-year-bledisloe-cup-win-drought

                            Stuff.co.nz was pretty generous in its player ratings too.

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                              Also think you only need to look at Jordie to see that something is amiss in the coaching group...guy was being lauded in the NH, looked like he had returned a better player early on v France but since has regressed back to large amounts of mediocrity, that fits in with those around him.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                Also think you only need to look at Jordie to see that something is amiss in the coaching group...guy was being lauded in the NH, looked like he had returned a better player early on v France but since has regressed back to large amounts of mediocrity, that fits in with those around him.

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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Also think you only need to look at Jordie to see that something is amiss in the coaching group...guy was being lauded in the NH, looked like he had returned a better player early on v France but since has regressed back to large amounts of mediocrity, that fits in with those around him.

                                Because he’s a fucking fullback. Not a fucking centre.

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                                  We need a 10, but nz rugby with the double play maker role havent developed a proper 10 throughout our Super Rugby teams, the closet to a pocket 10 is Cameron, but he hasn't kicked on like he was supposed to.
                                  Plummer was close in 24 with Cotters game plan.
                                  We can't wait for Richie M and rely solely on him.

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?

                                    I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.

                                    Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.

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                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?

                                    I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.

                                    Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.

                                    We don't value the ball, menstruation.

                                    Reckless kicking combined with disinterested chase is our game plan. The fuck?

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                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?

                                      I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.

                                      Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.

                                      And the team is a bunch of fucking midgets from 1-15

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                                      @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?

                                      I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.

                                      Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.

                                      And the team is a bunch of fucking midgets from 1-15

                                      This is a big part of the problem. The Springbok pack was 20 kg bigger than New Zealand's and I imagine the backs also have a similar weight/size advantage.

                                      The Springboks were always able to get yards after contact whereas the ABs could not get that same type of power. Over the course of 80 mins it must be so depleting being in collisions with people who are always (on average) bigger than you.

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                                        @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?

                                        I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.

                                        Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.

                                        And the team is a bunch of fucking midgets from 1-15

                                        This is a big part of the problem. The Springbok pack was 20 kg bigger than New Zealand's and I imagine the backs also have a similar weight/size advantage.

                                        The Springboks were always able to get yards after contact whereas the ABs could not get that same type of power. Over the course of 80 mins it must be so depleting being in collisions with people who are always (on average) bigger than you.

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                                        1,3,5,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,15 all look like fucking children. Fuck it must be hard putting 5 kilos on as a professional athlete. Dmac must just love being undersized

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                                          @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?

                                          I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.

                                          Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.

                                          And the team is a bunch of fucking midgets from 1-15

                                          This is a big part of the problem. The Springbok pack was 20 kg bigger than New Zealand's and I imagine the backs also have a similar weight/size advantage.

                                          The Springboks were always able to get yards after contact whereas the ABs could not get that same type of power. Over the course of 80 mins it must be so depleting being in collisions with people who are always (on average) bigger than you.

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                                          @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bones when and how do you bring them in given they are not all available?

                                          I think so many of our problems stem from our inability to deal with the ball in the air, puts us under pressure in parts of the field that opposition want us to be playing, and add in how our scrum has struggled v SA, we are never gonna win the battle.

                                          Razor said that they know how much SA value the aerial game and that we had been working hard there...evidence would suggest we haven't and dont value it enough.

                                          And the team is a bunch of fucking midgets from 1-15

                                          This is a big part of the problem. The Springbok pack was 20 kg bigger than New Zealand's and I imagine the backs also have a similar weight/size advantage.

                                          The Springboks were always able to get yards after contact whereas the ABs could not get that same type of power. Over the course of 80 mins it must be so depleting being in collisions with people who are always (on average) bigger than you.

                                          Matera off the back of the scrum in Argentina and Ezterhuizen today.

                                          No sidestep was even considered. Full steam into McKenzie.

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