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Has Hansen gone stale?

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    If we go into next season in a WC year as number 2 ,

    it certainly is new territory ,

    Going to be an interesting season ,

    12 months is a long time and plenty can change in that time ,

    Not panicking yet, but have concerns we are not so much sliding , but have plateaued

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      Hansen says we are stuck between how they used to play and how they want to play and not getting it right....

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      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

        If we go into next season in a WC year as number 2 ,

        it certainly is new territory ,

        Going to be an interesting season ,

        12 months is a long time and plenty can change in that time ,

        Not panicking yet, but have concerns we are not so much sliding , but have plateaued

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        @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

        If we go into next season in a WC year as number 2 ,

        it certainly is new territory ,

        Going to be an interesting season ,

        12 months is a long time and plenty can change in that time ,

        Not panicking yet, but have concerns we are not so much sliding , but have plateaued

        Cough, cough, 2003

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        • CatograndeC Catogrande

          @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

          If we go into next season in a WC year as number 2 ,

          it certainly is new territory ,

          Going to be an interesting season ,

          12 months is a long time and plenty can change in that time ,

          Not panicking yet, but have concerns we are not so much sliding , but have plateaued

          Cough, cough, 2003

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          @catogrande said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

          @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

          If we go into next season in a WC year as number 2 ,

          it certainly is new territory ,

          Going to be an interesting season ,

          12 months is a long time and plenty can change in that time ,

          Not panicking yet, but have concerns we are not so much sliding , but have plateaued

          Cough, cough, 2003

          Cough, cough 1999. (so close to the horrible 5 on the bounce losses of 1998)

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @catogrande said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

            @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

            If we go into next season in a WC year as number 2 ,

            it certainly is new territory ,

            Going to be an interesting season ,

            12 months is a long time and plenty can change in that time ,

            Not panicking yet, but have concerns we are not so much sliding , but have plateaued

            Cough, cough, 2003

            Cough, cough 1999. (so close to the horrible 5 on the bounce losses of 1998)

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            @nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

            @catogrande said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

            @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

            If we go into next season in a WC year as number 2 ,

            it certainly is new territory ,

            Going to be an interesting season ,

            12 months is a long time and plenty can change in that time ,

            Not panicking yet, but have concerns we are not so much sliding , but have plateaued

            Cough, cough, 2003

            Cough, cough 1999. (so close to the horrible 5 on the bounce losses of 1998)

            So not new territory?

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              #57

              The reaction to losing at home to a much lower ranked SA side should have really had a more negative reaction than losing away to a number 2 (at the time) ranked Ireland. Because of the long-standing rivalry being reignited, many people (including me) were happy to let the Saffas have their win without properly acknowledging that that it signified something very negative about the level the ABs are playing at.

              SA will be targeting our pool game to avoid Ireland in the quarters.

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              • rotatedR rotated

                Absolutely reject the idea of them foxing/keeping the powder dry. What exactly did they keep on ice in 2015? Aside from the droppies in the semi and what exactly where the tactical masterstrokes they had to hold back? I don't doubt they have some strike plays off set piece up their sleeve - but little else.

                Stale? No. He has made some massive blunders in lowering certain standards for an AB 10, having no urgency to create a stable midfield combo, getting too far away from picking the best player available and picking sub-standard assistants to replace Ted and Smith.

                The test for Hansen is if he truly believes Ireland are the best team in the world is he prepared to coach from underneath? Is he prepared to either accept that Ireland are going to dominate us in certain facets and coach around that or are we able to make the necessary changes and improvements to overcome Ireland's dominance?

                There fear is that when Hansen says Ireland are the best in the world it is merely lip service and he will continue to coach with the assumption we can merely tinker with selections and a game plan and impose their will next time. Problem is if NZ dominate SR again, then we towel Australia and an SA B team in the TRC it's going to be happy days again. It's eerily similar to 1999.

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                @rotated said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                Absolutely reject the idea of them foxing/keeping the powder dry. What exactly did they keep on ice in 2015? Aside from the droppies in the semi and what exactly where the tactical masterstrokes they had to hold back? I don't doubt they have some strike plays off set piece up their sleeve - but little else.

                They destroyed a French side and dominated the final. Had BFA not been given the world's softest YC the Wallabies would've been humped.

                The masterstrokes is how they create and exploit space on the field. Often multiphase to achieve the desired effect.

                Hansen has been a remarkably successful coach for a long time. I'm prepared to give him some rope.

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                  We'll be asking this on the All Blacks Edition on Wednesday night 8pm.

                  But is Hansen hiding some tricks that he doesn't want to show before the Rugby World Cup? I think it's all about winning there not this year.

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                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                    @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                    If we go into next season in a WC year as number 2 ,

                    it certainly is new territory ,

                    Going to be an interesting season ,

                    12 months is a long time and plenty can change in that time ,

                    Not panicking yet, but have concerns we are not so much sliding , but have plateaued

                    Cough, cough, 2003

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                    @catogrande said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                    @kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                    If we go into next season in a WC year as number 2 ,

                    it certainly is new territory ,

                    Going to be an interesting season ,

                    12 months is a long time and plenty can change in that time ,

                    Not panicking yet, but have concerns we are not so much sliding , but have plateaued

                    Cough, cough, 2003

                    For these players

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                    • DrivingMaulD DrivingMaul

                      We'll be asking this on the All Blacks Edition on Wednesday night 8pm.

                      But is Hansen hiding some tricks that he doesn't want to show before the Rugby World Cup? I think it's all about winning there not this year.

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                      @drivingmaul said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                      But is Hansen hiding some tricks that he doesn't want to show before the Rugby World Cup? I think it's all about winning there not this year.

                      I guess that is what we are all hoping.

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                      • SnowyS Snowy

                        @drivingmaul said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                        But is Hansen hiding some tricks that he doesn't want to show before the Rugby World Cup? I think it's all about winning there not this year.

                        I guess that is what we are all hoping.

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                        @snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                        @drivingmaul said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                        But is Hansen hiding some tricks that he doesn't want to show before the Rugby World Cup? I think it's all about winning there not this year.

                        I guess that is what we are all hoping.

                        Ireland and other sides are probably also holding back.
                        It's not just the ABs that have some super secret tactics.

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                          @snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                          @drivingmaul said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                          But is Hansen hiding some tricks that he doesn't want to show before the Rugby World Cup? I think it's all about winning there not this year.

                          I guess that is what we are all hoping.

                          Ireland and other sides are probably also holding back.
                          It's not just the ABs that have some super secret tactics.

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                          @frank Nobody said it was only the AB. All sides will be trying different tactics in the lead up to the big show.

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                            on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.

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                              on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.

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                              @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                              on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.

                              Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.

                                Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!

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                                @nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.

                                Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!

                                we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves

                                will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                  @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                  on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.

                                  Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!

                                  we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves

                                  will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

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                                  @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                  will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

                                  I'd start it now but they were pretty universally shit.

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                                    @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                    will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

                                    I'd start it now but they were pretty universally shit.

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                                    @snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                    @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                    will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

                                    I'd start it now but they were pretty universally shit.

                                    you can start with players who weren't present....

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                      @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                      will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

                                      I'd start it now but they were pretty universally shit.

                                      you can start with players who weren't present....

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                                      @mariner4life Nonu, Richie, Conrad?

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                                        Reuben.Never even saw him.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                          @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                          on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.

                                          Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!

                                          we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves

                                          will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

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                                          @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                          @nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                          @mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

                                          on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.

                                          Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!

                                          we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves

                                          will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?

                                          You mean no more dick pick threads?

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