Has Hansen gone stale?
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@kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
If we go into next season in a WC year as number 2 ,
it certainly is new territory ,
Going to be an interesting season ,
12 months is a long time and plenty can change in that time ,
Not panicking yet, but have concerns we are not so much sliding , but have plateaued
Cough, cough, 2003
@catogrande said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@kiwiinmelb said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
If we go into next season in a WC year as number 2 ,
it certainly is new territory ,
Going to be an interesting season ,
12 months is a long time and plenty can change in that time ,
Not panicking yet, but have concerns we are not so much sliding , but have plateaued
Cough, cough, 2003
For these players
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We'll be asking this on the All Blacks Edition on Wednesday night 8pm.
But is Hansen hiding some tricks that he doesn't want to show before the Rugby World Cup? I think it's all about winning there not this year.
@drivingmaul said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
But is Hansen hiding some tricks that he doesn't want to show before the Rugby World Cup? I think it's all about winning there not this year.
I guess that is what we are all hoping.
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@drivingmaul said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
But is Hansen hiding some tricks that he doesn't want to show before the Rugby World Cup? I think it's all about winning there not this year.
I guess that is what we are all hoping.
@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@drivingmaul said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
But is Hansen hiding some tricks that he doesn't want to show before the Rugby World Cup? I think it's all about winning there not this year.
I guess that is what we are all hoping.
Ireland and other sides are probably also holding back.
It's not just the ABs that have some super secret tactics. -
@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@drivingmaul said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
But is Hansen hiding some tricks that he doesn't want to show before the Rugby World Cup? I think it's all about winning there not this year.
I guess that is what we are all hoping.
Ireland and other sides are probably also holding back.
It's not just the ABs that have some super secret tactics. -
on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.
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on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.
Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!
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@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.
Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!
@nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.
Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!
we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves
will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?
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@nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.
Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!
we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves
will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?
I'd start it now but they were pretty universally shit.
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@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?
I'd start it now but they were pretty universally shit.
@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?
I'd start it now but they were pretty universally shit.
you can start with players who weren't present....
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@snowy said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?
I'd start it now but they were pretty universally shit.
you can start with players who weren't present....
@mariner4life Nonu, Richie, Conrad?
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@nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.
Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!
we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves
will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.
Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!
we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves
will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?
You mean no more dick pick threads?
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@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.
Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!
we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves
will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?
You mean no more dick pick threads?
@rancid-schnitzel said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@nzzp said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@mariner4life said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
on the positive side, this could be the most interesting rugby week on the Fern in years. We just had a loss people care about.
Hell yeah - would love to see the traffic from a typical week to this week!
we might not even need to make up rando topics in the middle of threads to entertain ourselves
will it be tomorrow or wednesday when the fingers start getting pointed across provincial lines?
You mean no more dick pick threads?
hey hey hey, let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. Epic threads are welcome at any time. Especially at a time of mourning and recrimination
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The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
If we were holding any cards close to our chest this weekend then we’ve been doing so for about 15 months. Perhaps we’ve been holding back having a kicking game that isn’t pedestrian/custard footed. Maybe some of our forwards won’t play in leaden shoes or won’t butter their fingers next year.
The hopeful comparisons with the 2015 pool games are all well and good, except this time they all had the Japan game off.
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The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
If we were holding any cards close to our chest this weekend then we’ve been doing so for about 15 months. Perhaps we’ve been holding back having a kicking game that isn’t pedestrian/custard footed. Maybe some of our forwards won’t play in leaden shoes or won’t butter their fingers next year.
The hopeful comparisons with the 2015 pool games are all well and good, except this time they all had the Japan game off.
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
If we were holding any cards close to our chest this weekend then we’ve been doing so for about 15 months. Perhaps we’ve been holding back having a kicking game that isn’t pedestrian/custard footed. Maybe some of our forwards won’t play in leaden shoes or without buttering their fingers next year...
The hopeful comparisons with the 2015 pool games are all well and good, except this time they all had the Japan game off.
It dates back to Laurie Mains. He at least claimed that he deliberately used a conservative game plan in 94 to outfox the opposition. Not sure how true that is. It certainly helped to have Lomu, Mehrtens, Osborne and Kronfeld in 95.
Ultimately it's not smart to have untested hidden genius tactics if they prove to be utterly shit.
I do however think there will be a different game plan and far more strategic thinking going into each game. There has to be. More of the same will be the death of us.
Thing is, NZ winning the last 2 RWCs has been the best thing for international rugby. When we couldn't win the farking thing there was less respect for AB achievements in the intervening years. In Australia in particular, even a crushing loss was "building nicely for the world cup". Apparently doing well in a tournament every four years, justifies three years of shit.
It's been a pleasant change. So for the health of international rugby, it's imperative that NZ wins the RWC. Absolutely vital.
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@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
If we were holding any cards close to our chest this weekend then we’ve been doing so for about 15 months. Perhaps we’ve been holding back having a kicking game that isn’t pedestrian/custard footed. Maybe some of our forwards won’t play in leaden shoes or without buttering their fingers next year...
The hopeful comparisons with the 2015 pool games are all well and good, except this time they all had the Japan game off.
It dates back to Laurie Mains. He at least claimed that he deliberately used a conservative game plan in 94 to outfox the opposition. Not sure how true that is. It certainly helped to have Lomu, Mehrtens, Osborne and Kronfeld in 95.
Ultimately it's not smart to have untested hidden genius tactics if they prove to be utterly shit.
I do however think there will be a different game plan and far more strategic thinking going into each game. There has to be. More of the same will be the death of us.
Thing is, NZ winning the last 2 RWCs has been the best thing for international rugby. When we couldn't win the farking thing there was less respect for AB achievements in the intervening years. In Australia in particular, even a crushing loss was "building nicely for the world cup". Apparently doing well in a tournament every four years, justifies three years of shit.
It's been a pleasant change. So for the health of international rugby, it's imperative that NZ wins the RWC. Absolutely vital.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
I do however think there will be a different game plan and far more strategic thinking going into each game. There has to be. More of the same will be the death of us.
Thats the thing, they are trying a different one (or2?) just it aint working, so now what?
Not much actual game time to iron the kinks out to try get it right, or will we see some AB players play to specific AB gameplans in super rugby?
The other thing is people questioning Reads leadership, was pretty damn good last week, adjusting and adapting, which TBF I think was a reflection of the ABs were actually playing alright bar the 1st 20, whereas yesterday a bunch of players, including Read were playing poorly so we needed an awful lot of players yesterday to energise and step back up.
Given how we played (more so in execution of basic skills - kicking, catching) yesterday, we left a few points out there, as did Ireland, is it really the end of the world we only lost by 7, or can that be looked at as a positive?
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We need a scapegoat ,
I nominate Fozzie ,
I blame Fozzie .
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We need a scapegoat ,
I nominate Fozzie ,
I blame Fozzie .
@kiwiinmelb easier to blame Barnes, if he hadnt called that not forward pass forward, I reckon we score off the turnover we won, so I blame him, whole heartedly, and Fozzie, and Deans, dont forget Deans.
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@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
If we were holding any cards close to our chest this weekend then we’ve been doing so for about 15 months. Perhaps we’ve been holding back having a kicking game that isn’t pedestrian/custard footed. Maybe some of our forwards won’t play in leaden shoes or without buttering their fingers next year...
The hopeful comparisons with the 2015 pool games are all well and good, except this time they all had the Japan game off.
It dates back to Laurie Mains. He at least claimed that he deliberately used a conservative game plan in 94 to outfox the opposition. Not sure how true that is. It certainly helped to have Lomu, Mehrtens, Osborne and Kronfeld in 95.
Ultimately it's not smart to have untested hidden genius tactics if they prove to be utterly shit.
I do however think there will be a different game plan and far more strategic thinking going into each game. There has to be. More of the same will be the death of us.
Thing is, NZ winning the last 2 RWCs has been the best thing for international rugby. When we couldn't win the farking thing there was less respect for AB achievements in the intervening years. In Australia in particular, even a crushing loss was "building nicely for the world cup". Apparently doing well in a tournament every four years, justifies three years of shit.
It's been a pleasant change. So for the health of international rugby, it's imperative that NZ wins the RWC. Absolutely vital.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
@donsteppa said in Has Hansen gone stale?:
The “we were holding something back” argument is always nice wishful thinking, but often bollocks.
I can’t easily remember the last time a team suddenly pulled off a triple scissors esque move for the first time ever in an RWC knockout game.
If we were holding any cards close to our chest this weekend then we’ve been doing so for about 15 months. Perhaps we’ve been holding back having a kicking game that isn’t pedestrian/custard footed. Maybe some of our forwards won’t play in leaden shoes or without buttering their fingers next year...
The hopeful comparisons with the 2015 pool games are all well and good, except this time they all had the Japan game off.
Ultimately it's not smart to have untested hidden genius tactics if they prove to be utterly shit.
But worth it for the gems that Tony Woodcock and the 2011 final provided
