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2020 All Blacks Squad

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    All Blacks whose deals run out in 2019:

    2019

    Brodie Retallick: Likely to re-sign, sabbatical in Japan
    Jack Goodhue: Almost certain to re-sign
    Beauden Barrett: Likely to re-sign, sabbatical in Japan.
    Ryan Crotty: Strongly linked with move to Bath or Japan.
    Jordie Barrett: Almost certain to re-sign
    Richie Mo'unga: Likely to re-sign
    Sonny Bill Williams: Almost certain to leave. Bath, Saracens and Bristol interested.
    Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi: Likely to re-sign
    Liam Coltman: ?????????
    Nathan Harris: Wasps are interested.
    Kane Hames: ?????????
    Shannon Frizell: ???????
    Waisake Naholo: Almost certainly off to London Irish, interest from Wasps.
    Matt Todd: Probably off to Japan
    Luke Romano: Interest from Sale and Bristol.
    Sam Whitelock (Has one year extension): Probably off to France.

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      https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1112580693995847681?s=20

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        It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
        Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
        And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

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          It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
          Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
          And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

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          @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

          It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
          Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
          And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

          I don't think he's up to it in the beard growing department

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          • TimT Tim

            @gt12 From the article.

            Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

             Hookers
            
            Dane Coles - 2021
            Codie Taylor - 2021
            
            Props
            Joe Moody - 2022
            Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
            Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
            Nepo Laulala - 2020
            
            Locks
            Scott Barrett - 2020
            Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
            Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
            
            Loose forwards
            Dalton Papalii - 2022
            Sam Cane - 2021
            Ardie Savea - 2021
            Vaea Fifita - 2020
            
            Halfbacks
            TJ Perenara - 2021
            Aaron Smith - 2021
            
            Midfield backs
            Ngani Laumape - 2021
            Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
            
            Wings
            Rieko Ioane - 2022
            
            Utilities
            Damian McKenzie - 2021
            
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            booboo
            wrote on last edited by
            #159

            @Tim said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

            @gt12 From the article.

            Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

             Hookers
            
            Dane Coles - 2021
            Codie Taylor - 2021
            
            Props
            Joe Moody - 2022
            Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
            Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
            Nepo Laulala - 2020
            
            Locks
            Scott Barrett - 2020
            Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
            Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
            
            Loose forwards
            Dalton Papalii - 2022
            Sam Cane - 2021
            Ardie Savea - 2021
            Vaea Fifita - 2020
            
            Halfbacks
            TJ Perenara - 2021
            Aaron Smith - 2021
            
            Midfield backs
            Ngani Laumape - 2021
            Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
            
            Wings
            Rieko Ioane - 2022
            
            Utilities
            Damian McKenzie - 2021
            

            This gives me warm fuzzies

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            • MN5M MN5

              @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

              It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
              Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
              And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

              I don't think he's up to it in the beard growing department

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              #160

              @MN5 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

              @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

              It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
              Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
              And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

              I don't think he's up to it in the beard growing department

              And does he have the height to weight to play number 8?

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                They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

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                  They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

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                  @rotated

                  I'm fascinated by how they try to work out the value of the contracts they offer to these players. BBBR must be more valuable than Whitelock, but how about Barrett versus Mounga? Personally, I be putting a bit of money in front of Goodhue right now too.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @gt12 From the article.

                    Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

                     Hookers
                    
                    Dane Coles - 2021
                    Codie Taylor - 2021
                    
                    Props
                    Joe Moody - 2022
                    Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
                    Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
                    Nepo Laulala - 2020
                    
                    Locks
                    Scott Barrett - 2020
                    Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
                    Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
                    
                    Loose forwards
                    Dalton Papalii - 2022
                    Sam Cane - 2021
                    Ardie Savea - 2021
                    Vaea Fifita - 2020
                    
                    Halfbacks
                    TJ Perenara - 2021
                    Aaron Smith - 2021
                    
                    Midfield backs
                    Ngani Laumape - 2021
                    Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
                    
                    Wings
                    Rieko Ioane - 2022
                    
                    Utilities
                    Damian McKenzie - 2021
                    
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                    number9
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #163

                    @Tim said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                    @gt12 From the article.

                    Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

                     Hookers
                    
                    Dane Coles - 2021
                    Codie Taylor - 2021
                    
                    Props
                    Joe Moody - 2022
                    Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
                    Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
                    Nepo Laulala - 2020
                    
                    Locks
                    Scott Barrett - 2020
                    Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
                    Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
                    
                    Loose forwards
                    Dalton Papalii - 2022
                    Sam Cane - 2021
                    Ardie Savea - 2021
                    Vaea Fifita - 2020
                    
                    Halfbacks
                    TJ Perenara - 2021
                    Aaron Smith - 2021
                    
                    Midfield backs
                    Ngani Laumape - 2021
                    Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
                    
                    Wings
                    Rieko Ioane - 2022
                    
                    Utilities
                    Damian McKenzie - 2021
                    

                    I 100% agree with Angus, but Atu Moli has done absolutely nothing to warrant selection. Lomax is not the inform THP, Laulala is looking good.

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                    • rotatedR rotated

                      They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

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                      #164

                      @rotated said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                      They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

                      Hansen (and Henry before him) really saw the value of grizzled veterans. I think the blend of half vets, and half enthusiastic youth is a tried formula.

                      On another note, it's great to see quality new faces popping up in every Super campaign. Will Jordan, Tom Robinson - and others - who could easily transition to the top level over the next few years.

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                        Yeahtheboys
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                        #165

                        What do you guys think will be the 6, 7 and 8 aswell as the reserve loosie come World Cup time? Aswell as what do you think for the 2020 squad.

                        I think

                        World Cup
                        6. Frizell
                        7. Savea
                        8. Read
                        20. Cane

                        2020
                        6. Frizell
                        7. Cane
                        8. Savea
                        20. Ioane

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                          Machpants
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                          #166

                          If, and it's a big if, cane makes the cup he starts, ardie will be on the bench. Outside that I've no idea EDIT: and Read at 8 obviously. Ardie might be the 7 instead of Cane if he had performed like the last game, in the game before vs the Crusaders.

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                            #167

                            6 Read
                            7 cane
                            8 Ioani

                            20 savea

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                              6 Read
                              7 cane
                              8 Ioani

                              20 savea

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                              Kirwan
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                              #168

                              @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                              6 Read
                              7 cane
                              8 Ioani

                              20

                              That’s just cruel to tease me like that. Would be a dominant back row for sure.

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                                mariner4life
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                                #169

                                My world cup knockout game 23

                                Smith
                                Bridge
                                Goodhue
                                ALB
                                Ioane
                                Mounga
                                Smith
                                Ioane
                                Cane
                                Read
                                Whitelock
                                Retallic
                                Franks
                                Coles
                                Moody

                                Taylor
                                Ofa T
                                Karl T
                                Patty T
                                Savea
                                TJP
                                Laumape
                                DMac

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                                  Yeahtheboys
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                                  #170

                                  No Barrett? 😂😂 he’s always been shit in super rugby, he’ll be starting

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    My world cup knockout game 23

                                    Smith
                                    Bridge
                                    Goodhue
                                    ALB
                                    Ioane
                                    Mounga
                                    Smith
                                    Ioane
                                    Cane
                                    Read
                                    Whitelock
                                    Retallic
                                    Franks
                                    Coles
                                    Moody

                                    Taylor
                                    Ofa T
                                    Karl T
                                    Patty T
                                    Savea
                                    TJP
                                    Laumape
                                    DMac

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                                    gt12
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                                    #171

                                    @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                    My world cup knockout game 23

                                    Smith
                                    Bridge
                                    Goodhue
                                    ALB
                                    Ioane
                                    Mounga
                                    Smith
                                    Ioane
                                    Cane
                                    Read
                                    Whitelock
                                    Retallic
                                    Franks
                                    Coles
                                    Moody

                                    Taylor
                                    Ofa T
                                    Karl T
                                    Patty T
                                    Savea
                                    TJP
                                    Laumape
                                    DMac

                                    @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                                    Still an exciting team, but.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                      My world cup knockout game 23

                                      Smith
                                      Bridge
                                      Goodhue
                                      ALB
                                      Ioane
                                      Mounga
                                      Smith
                                      Ioane
                                      Cane
                                      Read
                                      Whitelock
                                      Retallic
                                      Franks
                                      Coles
                                      Moody

                                      Taylor
                                      Ofa T
                                      Karl T
                                      Patty T
                                      Savea
                                      TJP
                                      Laumape
                                      DMac

                                      @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                                      Still an exciting team, but.

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                                      Rancid Schnitzel
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                                      #172

                                      @gt12 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                      @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                      My world cup knockout game 23

                                      Smith
                                      Bridge
                                      Goodhue
                                      ALB
                                      Ioane
                                      Mounga
                                      Smith
                                      Ioane
                                      Cane
                                      Read
                                      Whitelock
                                      Retallic
                                      Franks
                                      Coles
                                      Moody

                                      Taylor
                                      Ofa T
                                      Karl T
                                      Patty T
                                      Savea
                                      TJP
                                      Laumape
                                      DMac

                                      @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                                      Still an exciting team, but.

                                      No comment. I've already been banned enough times this month. Although the inclusion of the once apparently absolutely shit A Savea makes me chuckle.

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                                        Chester Draws
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                                        #173

                                        And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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                                          #174

                                          How many games of rugby has SBW actually played in the past 15 months?

                                          Five for the ABs (in at least one of which he hobbled off early), two or three for the Blues this year, not many for the Blues last year?

                                          A dozen?

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