2020 All Blacks Squad
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@cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.I don't think he's up to it in the beard growing department
@MN5 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.I don't think he's up to it in the beard growing department
And does he have the height to weight to play number 8?
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They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.
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They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.
I'm fascinated by how they try to work out the value of the contracts they offer to these players. BBBR must be more valuable than Whitelock, but how about Barrett versus Mounga? Personally, I be putting a bit of money in front of Goodhue right now too.
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@gt12 From the article.
Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.
Hookers Dane Coles - 2021 Codie Taylor - 2021 Props Joe Moody - 2022 Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021 Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021 Nepo Laulala - 2020 Locks Scott Barrett - 2020 Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020 Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option) Loose forwards Dalton Papalii - 2022 Sam Cane - 2021 Ardie Savea - 2021 Vaea Fifita - 2020 Halfbacks TJ Perenara - 2021 Aaron Smith - 2021 Midfield backs Ngani Laumape - 2021 Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020 Wings Rieko Ioane - 2022 Utilities Damian McKenzie - 2021@Tim said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@gt12 From the article.
Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.
Hookers Dane Coles - 2021 Codie Taylor - 2021 Props Joe Moody - 2022 Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021 Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021 Nepo Laulala - 2020 Locks Scott Barrett - 2020 Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020 Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option) Loose forwards Dalton Papalii - 2022 Sam Cane - 2021 Ardie Savea - 2021 Vaea Fifita - 2020 Halfbacks TJ Perenara - 2021 Aaron Smith - 2021 Midfield backs Ngani Laumape - 2021 Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020 Wings Rieko Ioane - 2022 Utilities Damian McKenzie - 2021I 100% agree with Angus, but Atu Moli has done absolutely nothing to warrant selection. Lomax is not the inform THP, Laulala is looking good.
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They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.
@rotated said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.
Hansen (and Henry before him) really saw the value of grizzled veterans. I think the blend of half vets, and half enthusiastic youth is a tried formula.
On another note, it's great to see quality new faces popping up in every Super campaign. Will Jordan, Tom Robinson - and others - who could easily transition to the top level over the next few years.
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What do you guys think will be the 6, 7 and 8 aswell as the reserve loosie come World Cup time? Aswell as what do you think for the 2020 squad.
I think
World Cup
6. Frizell
7. Savea
8. Read
20. Cane2020
6. Frizell
7. Cane
8. Savea
20. Ioane -
If, and it's a big if, cane makes the cup he starts, ardie will be on the bench. Outside that I've no idea EDIT: and Read at 8 obviously. Ardie might be the 7 instead of Cane if he had performed like the last game, in the game before vs the Crusaders.
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6 Read
7 cane
8 Ioani20 savea
@mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
6 Read
7 cane
8 Ioani20
That’s just cruel to tease me like that. Would be a dominant back row for sure.
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No Barrett?
he’s always been shit in super rugby, he’ll be starting -
My world cup knockout game 23
Smith
Bridge
Goodhue
ALB
Ioane
Mounga
Smith
Ioane
Cane
Read
Whitelock
Retallic
Franks
Coles
MoodyTaylor
Ofa T
Karl T
Patty T
Savea
TJP
Laumape
DMac@mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
My world cup knockout game 23
Smith
Bridge
Goodhue
ALB
Ioane
Mounga
Smith
Ioane
Cane
Read
Whitelock
Retallic
Franks
Coles
MoodyTaylor
Ofa T
Karl T
Patty T
Savea
TJP
Laumape
DMac@Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.
Still an exciting team, but.
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@mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
My world cup knockout game 23
Smith
Bridge
Goodhue
ALB
Ioane
Mounga
Smith
Ioane
Cane
Read
Whitelock
Retallic
Franks
Coles
MoodyTaylor
Ofa T
Karl T
Patty T
Savea
TJP
Laumape
DMac@Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.
Still an exciting team, but.
@gt12 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
My world cup knockout game 23
Smith
Bridge
Goodhue
ALB
Ioane
Mounga
Smith
Ioane
Cane
Read
Whitelock
Retallic
Franks
Coles
MoodyTaylor
Ofa T
Karl T
Patty T
Savea
TJP
Laumape
DMac@Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.
Still an exciting team, but.
No comment. I've already been banned enough times this month. Although the inclusion of the once apparently absolutely shit A Savea makes me chuckle.
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And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.
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And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.
@Chester-Draws assuming they are open about it just being arthroscopy, this is not a major surgery and could well be back up and running in a couple of weeks.
As a non-elite athlete, I was back playing to my high level 4 weeks post arthroscopy.
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And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.
@Chester-Draws said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.
I think badly broken is overstating it. It’s minor surgery that will sideline him for about a month.
Blues head coach Leon MacDonald said: "Whatever he decides to do and puts his mind to, he sort of makes happen. If he still wants to keep playing later on he's the sort of guy you would never write off.
"He's a pretty determined guy and this year he really wants to make the World Cup squad and be a part of that. So he's pretty driven to make sure he recovers well from this and gets back on the field." -
Coltman has signed through to 2022:
All Blacks hooker Liam Coltman re-signs with Highlanders
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@Chester-Draws said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.
I think badly broken is overstating it. It’s minor surgery that will sideline him for about a month.
Blues head coach Leon MacDonald said: "Whatever he decides to do and puts his mind to, he sort of makes happen. If he still wants to keep playing later on he's the sort of guy you would never write off.
"He's a pretty determined guy and this year he really wants to make the World Cup squad and be a part of that. So he's pretty driven to make sure he recovers well from this and gets back on the field."@ACT-Crusader said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Chester-Draws said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.
I think badly broken is overstating it. It’s minor surgery that will sideline him for about a month.
Which wouldn't matter much, if he had been playing regularly.
In this case it's one more month out, minimum. The newspaper said six weeks (plus the two since the injury, makes eight weeks off). Then he'll not be at full fitness for a while.
I was always in the pro-SBW camp, but it's got past ridiculous. I believe the term is "food bill".
