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2020 All Blacks Squad

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  • C cgrant

    It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
    Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
    And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

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    @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

    It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
    Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
    And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

    I don't think he's up to it in the beard growing department

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    • TimT Tim

      @gt12 From the article.

      Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

       Hookers
      
      Dane Coles - 2021
      Codie Taylor - 2021
      
      Props
      Joe Moody - 2022
      Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
      Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
      Nepo Laulala - 2020
      
      Locks
      Scott Barrett - 2020
      Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
      Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
      
      Loose forwards
      Dalton Papalii - 2022
      Sam Cane - 2021
      Ardie Savea - 2021
      Vaea Fifita - 2020
      
      Halfbacks
      TJ Perenara - 2021
      Aaron Smith - 2021
      
      Midfield backs
      Ngani Laumape - 2021
      Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
      
      Wings
      Rieko Ioane - 2022
      
      Utilities
      Damian McKenzie - 2021
      
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      @Tim said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

      @gt12 From the article.

      Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

       Hookers
      
      Dane Coles - 2021
      Codie Taylor - 2021
      
      Props
      Joe Moody - 2022
      Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
      Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
      Nepo Laulala - 2020
      
      Locks
      Scott Barrett - 2020
      Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
      Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
      
      Loose forwards
      Dalton Papalii - 2022
      Sam Cane - 2021
      Ardie Savea - 2021
      Vaea Fifita - 2020
      
      Halfbacks
      TJ Perenara - 2021
      Aaron Smith - 2021
      
      Midfield backs
      Ngani Laumape - 2021
      Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
      
      Wings
      Rieko Ioane - 2022
      
      Utilities
      Damian McKenzie - 2021
      

      This gives me warm fuzzies

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      • MN5M MN5

        @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

        It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
        Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
        And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

        I don't think he's up to it in the beard growing department

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        @MN5 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

        @cgrant said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

        It will be interesting to see who will get the nod as the starting THP after the RWC, with long serving Owen Franks off to Northampton.
        Ofa-T and Laulala are the obvious choices but I think Tyrell Lomax could be the man. He has made a lot of progress this year and looks like a young Carl Hayman. His physicality cannot be questioned and he is not subject to brain explosions as Ofa-T is.
        And there is Atu Moli. How will he recover from his injuries is the big question.

        I don't think he's up to it in the beard growing department

        And does he have the height to weight to play number 8?

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          They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

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          • rotatedR rotated

            They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

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            @rotated

            I'm fascinated by how they try to work out the value of the contracts they offer to these players. BBBR must be more valuable than Whitelock, but how about Barrett versus Mounga? Personally, I be putting a bit of money in front of Goodhue right now too.

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            • TimT Tim

              @gt12 From the article.

              Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

               Hookers
              
              Dane Coles - 2021
              Codie Taylor - 2021
              
              Props
              Joe Moody - 2022
              Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
              Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
              Nepo Laulala - 2020
              
              Locks
              Scott Barrett - 2020
              Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
              Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
              
              Loose forwards
              Dalton Papalii - 2022
              Sam Cane - 2021
              Ardie Savea - 2021
              Vaea Fifita - 2020
              
              Halfbacks
              TJ Perenara - 2021
              Aaron Smith - 2021
              
              Midfield backs
              Ngani Laumape - 2021
              Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
              
              Wings
              Rieko Ioane - 2022
              
              Utilities
              Damian McKenzie - 2021
              
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              @Tim said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

              @gt12 From the article.

              Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

               Hookers
              
              Dane Coles - 2021
              Codie Taylor - 2021
              
              Props
              Joe Moody - 2022
              Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
              Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
              Nepo Laulala - 2020
              
              Locks
              Scott Barrett - 2020
              Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
              Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
              
              Loose forwards
              Dalton Papalii - 2022
              Sam Cane - 2021
              Ardie Savea - 2021
              Vaea Fifita - 2020
              
              Halfbacks
              TJ Perenara - 2021
              Aaron Smith - 2021
              
              Midfield backs
              Ngani Laumape - 2021
              Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
              
              Wings
              Rieko Ioane - 2022
              
              Utilities
              Damian McKenzie - 2021
              

              I 100% agree with Angus, but Atu Moli has done absolutely nothing to warrant selection. Lomax is not the inform THP, Laulala is looking good.

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              • rotatedR rotated

                They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

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                @rotated said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

                Hansen (and Henry before him) really saw the value of grizzled veterans. I think the blend of half vets, and half enthusiastic youth is a tried formula.

                On another note, it's great to see quality new faces popping up in every Super campaign. Will Jordan, Tom Robinson - and others - who could easily transition to the top level over the next few years.

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                  Yeahtheboys
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                  What do you guys think will be the 6, 7 and 8 aswell as the reserve loosie come World Cup time? Aswell as what do you think for the 2020 squad.

                  I think

                  World Cup
                  6. Frizell
                  7. Savea
                  8. Read
                  20. Cane

                  2020
                  6. Frizell
                  7. Cane
                  8. Savea
                  20. Ioane

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                    Machpants
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                    #166

                    If, and it's a big if, cane makes the cup he starts, ardie will be on the bench. Outside that I've no idea EDIT: and Read at 8 obviously. Ardie might be the 7 instead of Cane if he had performed like the last game, in the game before vs the Crusaders.

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                      #167

                      6 Read
                      7 cane
                      8 Ioani

                      20 savea

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        6 Read
                        7 cane
                        8 Ioani

                        20 savea

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                        @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                        6 Read
                        7 cane
                        8 Ioani

                        20

                        That’s just cruel to tease me like that. Would be a dominant back row for sure.

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                          mariner4life
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                          My world cup knockout game 23

                          Smith
                          Bridge
                          Goodhue
                          ALB
                          Ioane
                          Mounga
                          Smith
                          Ioane
                          Cane
                          Read
                          Whitelock
                          Retallic
                          Franks
                          Coles
                          Moody

                          Taylor
                          Ofa T
                          Karl T
                          Patty T
                          Savea
                          TJP
                          Laumape
                          DMac

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                            Yeahtheboys
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                            #170

                            No Barrett? 😂😂 he’s always been shit in super rugby, he’ll be starting

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              My world cup knockout game 23

                              Smith
                              Bridge
                              Goodhue
                              ALB
                              Ioane
                              Mounga
                              Smith
                              Ioane
                              Cane
                              Read
                              Whitelock
                              Retallic
                              Franks
                              Coles
                              Moody

                              Taylor
                              Ofa T
                              Karl T
                              Patty T
                              Savea
                              TJP
                              Laumape
                              DMac

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                              @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                              My world cup knockout game 23

                              Smith
                              Bridge
                              Goodhue
                              ALB
                              Ioane
                              Mounga
                              Smith
                              Ioane
                              Cane
                              Read
                              Whitelock
                              Retallic
                              Franks
                              Coles
                              Moody

                              Taylor
                              Ofa T
                              Karl T
                              Patty T
                              Savea
                              TJP
                              Laumape
                              DMac

                              @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                              Still an exciting team, but.

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                My world cup knockout game 23

                                Smith
                                Bridge
                                Goodhue
                                ALB
                                Ioane
                                Mounga
                                Smith
                                Ioane
                                Cane
                                Read
                                Whitelock
                                Retallic
                                Franks
                                Coles
                                Moody

                                Taylor
                                Ofa T
                                Karl T
                                Patty T
                                Savea
                                TJP
                                Laumape
                                DMac

                                @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                                Still an exciting team, but.

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                                @gt12 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                My world cup knockout game 23

                                Smith
                                Bridge
                                Goodhue
                                ALB
                                Ioane
                                Mounga
                                Smith
                                Ioane
                                Cane
                                Read
                                Whitelock
                                Retallic
                                Franks
                                Coles
                                Moody

                                Taylor
                                Ofa T
                                Karl T
                                Patty T
                                Savea
                                TJP
                                Laumape
                                DMac

                                @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                                Still an exciting team, but.

                                No comment. I've already been banned enough times this month. Although the inclusion of the once apparently absolutely shit A Savea makes me chuckle.

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                                  #173

                                  And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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                                    How many games of rugby has SBW actually played in the past 15 months?

                                    Five for the ABs (in at least one of which he hobbled off early), two or three for the Blues this year, not many for the Blues last year?

                                    A dozen?

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                                    • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                      And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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                                      @Chester-Draws assuming they are open about it just being arthroscopy, this is not a major surgery and could well be back up and running in a couple of weeks.

                                      As a non-elite athlete, I was back playing to my high level 4 weeks post arthroscopy.

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                                      • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                        And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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                                        @Chester-Draws said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                        And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

                                        I think badly broken is overstating it. It’s minor surgery that will sideline him for about a month.

                                        Blues head coach Leon MacDonald said: "Whatever he decides to do and puts his mind to, he sort of makes happen. If he still wants to keep playing later on he's the sort of guy you would never write off.
                                        "He's a pretty determined guy and this year he really wants to make the World Cup squad and be a part of that. So he's pretty driven to make sure he recovers well from this and gets back on the field."

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                                          Coltman has signed through to 2022:

                                          All Blacks hooker Liam Coltman re-signs with Highlanders

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/112066593/super-rugby-all-blacks-hooker-liam-coltman-resigns-with-highlanders

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