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2020 All Blacks Squad

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  • rotatedR rotated

    They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

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    @rotated

    I'm fascinated by how they try to work out the value of the contracts they offer to these players. BBBR must be more valuable than Whitelock, but how about Barrett versus Mounga? Personally, I be putting a bit of money in front of Goodhue right now too.

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    • TimT Tim

      @gt12 From the article.

      Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

       Hookers
      
      Dane Coles - 2021
      Codie Taylor - 2021
      
      Props
      Joe Moody - 2022
      Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
      Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
      Nepo Laulala - 2020
      
      Locks
      Scott Barrett - 2020
      Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
      Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
      
      Loose forwards
      Dalton Papalii - 2022
      Sam Cane - 2021
      Ardie Savea - 2021
      Vaea Fifita - 2020
      
      Halfbacks
      TJ Perenara - 2021
      Aaron Smith - 2021
      
      Midfield backs
      Ngani Laumape - 2021
      Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
      
      Wings
      Rieko Ioane - 2022
      
      Utilities
      Damian McKenzie - 2021
      
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      @Tim said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

      @gt12 From the article.

      Angus Ta'avo and Atu Moli are also signed for next year. The front row is well covered.

       Hookers
      
      Dane Coles - 2021
      Codie Taylor - 2021
      
      Props
      Joe Moody - 2022
      Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 2021
      Karl Tu'inukuafe - 2021
      Nepo Laulala - 2020
      
      Locks
      Scott Barrett - 2020
      Patrick Tuipulotu - 2020
      Sam Whitelock - 2020 (if he takes up a one year extension option)
      
      Loose forwards
      Dalton Papalii - 2022
      Sam Cane - 2021
      Ardie Savea - 2021
      Vaea Fifita - 2020
      
      Halfbacks
      TJ Perenara - 2021
      Aaron Smith - 2021
      
      Midfield backs
      Ngani Laumape - 2021
      Anton Lienert-Brown - 2020
      
      Wings
      Rieko Ioane - 2022
      
      Utilities
      Damian McKenzie - 2021
      

      I 100% agree with Angus, but Atu Moli has done absolutely nothing to warrant selection. Lomax is not the inform THP, Laulala is looking good.

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      • rotatedR rotated

        They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

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        @rotated said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

        They are shaping to give the 2012 class of debutants a lot of money going into their 9-12 AB seasons. I'm not sure some of these are wise investments if funds are low; particularly Coles, Smith and if Beauden is asking top dollar in the country.

        Hansen (and Henry before him) really saw the value of grizzled veterans. I think the blend of half vets, and half enthusiastic youth is a tried formula.

        On another note, it's great to see quality new faces popping up in every Super campaign. Will Jordan, Tom Robinson - and others - who could easily transition to the top level over the next few years.

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          What do you guys think will be the 6, 7 and 8 aswell as the reserve loosie come World Cup time? Aswell as what do you think for the 2020 squad.

          I think

          World Cup
          6. Frizell
          7. Savea
          8. Read
          20. Cane

          2020
          6. Frizell
          7. Cane
          8. Savea
          20. Ioane

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            #166

            If, and it's a big if, cane makes the cup he starts, ardie will be on the bench. Outside that I've no idea EDIT: and Read at 8 obviously. Ardie might be the 7 instead of Cane if he had performed like the last game, in the game before vs the Crusaders.

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              #167

              6 Read
              7 cane
              8 Ioani

              20 savea

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                6 Read
                7 cane
                8 Ioani

                20 savea

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                @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                6 Read
                7 cane
                8 Ioani

                20

                That’s just cruel to tease me like that. Would be a dominant back row for sure.

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                  #169

                  My world cup knockout game 23

                  Smith
                  Bridge
                  Goodhue
                  ALB
                  Ioane
                  Mounga
                  Smith
                  Ioane
                  Cane
                  Read
                  Whitelock
                  Retallic
                  Franks
                  Coles
                  Moody

                  Taylor
                  Ofa T
                  Karl T
                  Patty T
                  Savea
                  TJP
                  Laumape
                  DMac

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                    #170

                    No Barrett? 😂😂 he’s always been shit in super rugby, he’ll be starting

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      My world cup knockout game 23

                      Smith
                      Bridge
                      Goodhue
                      ALB
                      Ioane
                      Mounga
                      Smith
                      Ioane
                      Cane
                      Read
                      Whitelock
                      Retallic
                      Franks
                      Coles
                      Moody

                      Taylor
                      Ofa T
                      Karl T
                      Patty T
                      Savea
                      TJP
                      Laumape
                      DMac

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                      @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                      My world cup knockout game 23

                      Smith
                      Bridge
                      Goodhue
                      ALB
                      Ioane
                      Mounga
                      Smith
                      Ioane
                      Cane
                      Read
                      Whitelock
                      Retallic
                      Franks
                      Coles
                      Moody

                      Taylor
                      Ofa T
                      Karl T
                      Patty T
                      Savea
                      TJP
                      Laumape
                      DMac

                      @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                      Still an exciting team, but.

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                        My world cup knockout game 23

                        Smith
                        Bridge
                        Goodhue
                        ALB
                        Ioane
                        Mounga
                        Smith
                        Ioane
                        Cane
                        Read
                        Whitelock
                        Retallic
                        Franks
                        Coles
                        Moody

                        Taylor
                        Ofa T
                        Karl T
                        Patty T
                        Savea
                        TJP
                        Laumape
                        DMac

                        @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                        Still an exciting team, but.

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                        @gt12 said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                        @mariner4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                        My world cup knockout game 23

                        Smith
                        Bridge
                        Goodhue
                        ALB
                        Ioane
                        Mounga
                        Smith
                        Ioane
                        Cane
                        Read
                        Whitelock
                        Retallic
                        Franks
                        Coles
                        Moody

                        Taylor
                        Ofa T
                        Karl T
                        Patty T
                        Savea
                        TJP
                        Laumape
                        DMac

                        @Rancid-Schnitzel bait, right there.

                        Still an exciting team, but.

                        No comment. I've already been banned enough times this month. Although the inclusion of the once apparently absolutely shit A Savea makes me chuckle.

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                          #173

                          And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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                            How many games of rugby has SBW actually played in the past 15 months?

                            Five for the ABs (in at least one of which he hobbled off early), two or three for the Blues this year, not many for the Blues last year?

                            A dozen?

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                            • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                              And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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                              @Chester-Draws assuming they are open about it just being arthroscopy, this is not a major surgery and could well be back up and running in a couple of weeks.

                              As a non-elite athlete, I was back playing to my high level 4 weeks post arthroscopy.

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                              • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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                                @Chester-Draws said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

                                I think badly broken is overstating it. It’s minor surgery that will sideline him for about a month.

                                Blues head coach Leon MacDonald said: "Whatever he decides to do and puts his mind to, he sort of makes happen. If he still wants to keep playing later on he's the sort of guy you would never write off.
                                "He's a pretty determined guy and this year he really wants to make the World Cup squad and be a part of that. So he's pretty driven to make sure he recovers well from this and gets back on the field."

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                                  Coltman has signed through to 2022:

                                  All Blacks hooker Liam Coltman re-signs with Highlanders

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/112066593/super-rugby-all-blacks-hooker-liam-coltman-resigns-with-highlanders

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    Coltman has signed through to 2022:

                                    All Blacks hooker Liam Coltman re-signs with Highlanders

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/112066593/super-rugby-all-blacks-hooker-liam-coltman-resigns-with-highlanders

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                                    @sparky said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                    All Blacks hooker Liam Coltman

                                    not wonderful, but not as scary at this stage as 'All Blacks first five Otere Black'

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @Chester-Draws said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                      And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

                                      I think badly broken is overstating it. It’s minor surgery that will sideline him for about a month.

                                      Blues head coach Leon MacDonald said: "Whatever he decides to do and puts his mind to, he sort of makes happen. If he still wants to keep playing later on he's the sort of guy you would never write off.
                                      "He's a pretty determined guy and this year he really wants to make the World Cup squad and be a part of that. So he's pretty driven to make sure he recovers well from this and gets back on the field."

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                      @Chester-Draws said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                                      And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

                                      I think badly broken is overstating it. It’s minor surgery that will sideline him for about a month.

                                      Which wouldn't matter much, if he had been playing regularly.

                                      In this case it's one more month out, minimum. The newspaper said six weeks (plus the two since the injury, makes eight weeks off). Then he'll not be at full fitness for a while.

                                      I was always in the pro-SBW camp, but it's got past ridiculous. I believe the term is "food bill".

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                                        #180

                                        Nathan Harris has re-signed with NZR and the Chiefs for 2020 and 2021:

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/112200022/all-blacks-hooker-nathan-harris-resigns-with-new-zealand-rugby

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                                          #181

                                          Richie Mo'unga currently looks like the first-choice First-Five for 2019:

                                          Still unclear what is going to happen to the following All Blacks whose deals run out in 2019.

                                          Brodie Retallick:
                                          Jack Goodhue:
                                          Beauden Barrett:
                                          Jordie Barrett:
                                          Sonny Bill Williams:
                                          Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi:
                                          Kane Hames:
                                          Shannon Frizell:
                                          Waisake Naholo:
                                          Matt Todd:
                                          Luke Romano:
                                          Sam Whitelock (Could take up one-year extension)

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