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Stadium of Canterbury

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    @taniwharugby said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    the Canterbury earthquakes highlighted how underinsured a lot of NZ were (largely still are) for both private and commercial insurances.

    What's the situation now? Can you even get earthquake insurance in NZ?

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    taniwharugby
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    @NTA Wellington is harder to insure than the SI, many of the large risks are being placed with off shore insurers (like Lloyds) with huge excesses.

    But outside Wellington earthquake cover still largely available although they are imposing stricter terms, and domestic is largely dealt with by the EQC, although insurer rates for pre 1940 homes are usually much higher south of Taupo and I think IAG (NZI, AMI, State, Lantern) are not keen on parts of Wellington for domestic risks

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      That stadium looks nice. I think the business case depends on how many concerts you can actually attract.

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        A 25K stadium probably means only tier 2 test matches with Auckland and Wellington to still get the big tests.

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          @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

          I like it!

          My wife and I are on a medium term plan to move back to NZ and have bought land about an hour out of Christchurch.

          Going to AB and Chiefs games under the roof will be awesome, and this should help the city develop.

          Excellent!

          Umm, the crusaders are from Christchurch, not the chiefs....

          😜

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          @Machpants said in Stadium of Canterbury:

          @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

          I like it!

          My wife and I are on a medium term plan to move back to NZ and have bought land about an hour out of Christchurch.

          Going to AB and Chiefs games under the roof will be awesome, and this should help the city develop.

          Excellent!

          Umm, the crusaders are from Christchurch, not the chiefs....

          😜

          Except for when we kick their asses regular season or in the playoffs, or both!

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          • gt12G gt12

            I like it!

            My wife and I are on a medium term plan to move back to NZ and have bought land about an hour out of Christchurch.

            Going to AB and Chiefs games under the roof will be awesome, and this should help the city develop.

            Excellent!

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            @gt12 bloody good to get more chiefs surpporters down south. you will be surprised how many there are.

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              Hooroo
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              25,000 seater that will look like a click clack container with that see through roof.

              What a waste. This is the perfect opportunity to build something that is future proof with the ever growing populations and they are going with a 25,000 seater.

              @shark is not a happy camper, that is for sure

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              • HoorooH Hooroo

                25,000 seater that will look like a click clack container with that see through roof.

                What a waste. This is the perfect opportunity to build something that is future proof with the ever growing populations and they are going with a 25,000 seater.

                @shark is not a happy camper, that is for sure

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                Kirwan
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                @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                  Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

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                  @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                  @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                  Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

                  Totally agree.

                  Shark was mentioning on Facebook last night that with a stadium at 25k, it is only in competition for tests with Waikato Stadium, Albany etc. That makes it rather small. 3rd biggest city in NZ and growing.

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                    Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

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                    @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                    Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

                    a 'like for like' rebuild isnt what they are planning...most insurance policies have specific clauses about rebuilding differently at different sites etc.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                      Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

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                      Tim
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                      @Kirwan How big is Dunedin's stadium?

                      EDIT: Seems that it's 31k, but I'm not sure about temporary seating. Would've thought that around 35 or 40k was the minimum for a major AB test.

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                        BTW, Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium had a construction cost of $198M

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                        • TimT Tim

                          BTW, Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium had a construction cost of $198M

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                          @Tim said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          BTW, Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium had a construction cost of $198M

                          How long ago was that built though?

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                          • HoorooH Hooroo

                            @Tim said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                            BTW, Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium had a construction cost of $198M

                            How long ago was that built though?

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                            @Hooroo

                            2009 - 2011. How much have construction costs in NZ gone up in that time?

                            What are the additional costs from seismic measures?

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                              @Hooroo

                              2009 - 2011. How much have construction costs in NZ gone up in that time?

                              What are the additional costs from seismic measures?

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                              Hooroo
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                              @Tim said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              @Hooroo

                              2009 - 2011. How much have construction costs in NZ gone up in that time?

                              What are the additional costs from seismic measures?

                              No idea but that will be part of it.

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                                @Hooroo

                                2009 - 2011. How much have construction costs in NZ gone up in that time?

                                What are the additional costs from seismic measures?

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                                taniwharugby
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                                @Tim lots!

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                                  @Tim lots!

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                                  @taniwharugby Love that deliberate net immigration increase from 10 to 20k per annum to 60 to 70k. Great policy for everyone.

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                                    Winger
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                                    For me this is a brilliant option. Cantabs should really get behind it and make sure it happens

                                    More than 25000 is too much now. Play the big tests mostly in Auckland and let the rest of the country have a smaller stadium that at least will be part full for most matches. Even when its raining

                                    10 or 20% full is a poor atmosphere. And looks terrible on TV and that's where the focus is now.

                                    edit. The current stadium look shit on TV. Its a joke even when almost full.

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                                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                                      @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                                      Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

                                      Totally agree.

                                      Shark was mentioning on Facebook last night that with a stadium at 25k, it is only in competition for tests with Waikato Stadium, Albany etc. That makes it rather small. 3rd biggest city in NZ and growing.

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                                      @Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                                      Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

                                      Totally agree.

                                      Shark was mentioning on Facebook last night that with a stadium at 25k, it is only in competition for tests with Waikato Stadium, Albany etc. That makes it rather small. 3rd biggest city in NZ and growing.

                                      Yeah, 30k would have been a nice number, with extra seating brought in to get to 35k, but personally I’m happy that it’s undercover as that will make attending games easier. My only problem is that no doubt my boy will end up a Crusaders fan, which will be unbearable.

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        @Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                                        Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

                                        Totally agree.

                                        Shark was mentioning on Facebook last night that with a stadium at 25k, it is only in competition for tests with Waikato Stadium, Albany etc. That makes it rather small. 3rd biggest city in NZ and growing.

                                        Yeah, 30k would have been a nice number, with extra seating brought in to get to 35k, but personally I’m happy that it’s undercover as that will make attending games easier. My only problem is that no doubt my boy will end up a Crusaders fan, which will be unbearable.

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                                        @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                                        Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

                                        Totally agree.

                                        Shark was mentioning on Facebook last night that with a stadium at 25k, it is only in competition for tests with Waikato Stadium, Albany etc. That makes it rather small. 3rd biggest city in NZ and growing.

                                        Yeah, 30k would have been a nice number, with extra seating brought in to get to 35k, but personally I’m happy that it’s undercover as that will make attending games easier. My only problem is that no doubt my boy will end up a Crusaders fan, which will be unbearable.

                                        Just buy him a shirt from you franchise! That is usually enough to buy loyalty.

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                                          Godder
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                                          30k+5k would be nice, but 25k+5k is probably realistic. Not a big surprise from earlier discussions.

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