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Stadium of Canterbury

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  • M Machpants

    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    I like it!

    My wife and I are on a medium term plan to move back to NZ and have bought land about an hour out of Christchurch.

    Going to AB and Chiefs games under the roof will be awesome, and this should help the city develop.

    Excellent!

    Umm, the crusaders are from Christchurch, not the chiefs....

    😜

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    @Machpants said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    I like it!

    My wife and I are on a medium term plan to move back to NZ and have bought land about an hour out of Christchurch.

    Going to AB and Chiefs games under the roof will be awesome, and this should help the city develop.

    Excellent!

    Umm, the crusaders are from Christchurch, not the chiefs....

    😜

    Except for when we kick their asses regular season or in the playoffs, or both!

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    • gt12G gt12

      I like it!

      My wife and I are on a medium term plan to move back to NZ and have bought land about an hour out of Christchurch.

      Going to AB and Chiefs games under the roof will be awesome, and this should help the city develop.

      Excellent!

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      ploughboy
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      @gt12 bloody good to get more chiefs surpporters down south. you will be surprised how many there are.

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      • HoorooH Do not disturb
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        Hooroo
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        25,000 seater that will look like a click clack container with that see through roof.

        What a waste. This is the perfect opportunity to build something that is future proof with the ever growing populations and they are going with a 25,000 seater.

        @shark is not a happy camper, that is for sure

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          25,000 seater that will look like a click clack container with that see through roof.

          What a waste. This is the perfect opportunity to build something that is future proof with the ever growing populations and they are going with a 25,000 seater.

          @shark is not a happy camper, that is for sure

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          @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

          Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

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          • KirwanK Kirwan

            @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

            Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

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            Hooroo
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            @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

            @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

            Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

            Totally agree.

            Shark was mentioning on Facebook last night that with a stadium at 25k, it is only in competition for tests with Waikato Stadium, Albany etc. That makes it rather small. 3rd biggest city in NZ and growing.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

              Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

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              taniwharugby
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              @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

              Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

              a 'like for like' rebuild isnt what they are planning...most insurance policies have specific clauses about rebuilding differently at different sites etc.

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

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                Tim
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                @Kirwan How big is Dunedin's stadium?

                EDIT: Seems that it's 31k, but I'm not sure about temporary seating. Would've thought that around 35 or 40k was the minimum for a major AB test.

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                  Tim
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                  BTW, Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium had a construction cost of $198M

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                  • TimT Tim

                    BTW, Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium had a construction cost of $198M

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                    Hooroo
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                    @Tim said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                    BTW, Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium had a construction cost of $198M

                    How long ago was that built though?

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                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                      @Tim said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                      BTW, Dunedin's Forsyth Barr Stadium had a construction cost of $198M

                      How long ago was that built though?

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                      Tim
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                      @Hooroo

                      2009 - 2011. How much have construction costs in NZ gone up in that time?

                      What are the additional costs from seismic measures?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @Hooroo

                        2009 - 2011. How much have construction costs in NZ gone up in that time?

                        What are the additional costs from seismic measures?

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                        Hooroo
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                        @Tim said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                        @Hooroo

                        2009 - 2011. How much have construction costs in NZ gone up in that time?

                        What are the additional costs from seismic measures?

                        No idea but that will be part of it.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @Hooroo

                          2009 - 2011. How much have construction costs in NZ gone up in that time?

                          What are the additional costs from seismic measures?

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                          taniwharugby
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                          @Tim lots!

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                            @Tim lots!

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                            @taniwharugby Love that deliberate net immigration increase from 10 to 20k per annum to 60 to 70k. Great policy for everyone.

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                              Winger
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                              For me this is a brilliant option. Cantabs should really get behind it and make sure it happens

                              More than 25000 is too much now. Play the big tests mostly in Auckland and let the rest of the country have a smaller stadium that at least will be part full for most matches. Even when its raining

                              10 or 20% full is a poor atmosphere. And looks terrible on TV and that's where the focus is now.

                              edit. The current stadium look shit on TV. Its a joke even when almost full.

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                              • HoorooH Hooroo

                                @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                                Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

                                Totally agree.

                                Shark was mentioning on Facebook last night that with a stadium at 25k, it is only in competition for tests with Waikato Stadium, Albany etc. That makes it rather small. 3rd biggest city in NZ and growing.

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                                @Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                                Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

                                Totally agree.

                                Shark was mentioning on Facebook last night that with a stadium at 25k, it is only in competition for tests with Waikato Stadium, Albany etc. That makes it rather small. 3rd biggest city in NZ and growing.

                                Yeah, 30k would have been a nice number, with extra seating brought in to get to 35k, but personally I’m happy that it’s undercover as that will make attending games easier. My only problem is that no doubt my boy will end up a Crusaders fan, which will be unbearable.

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                                • gt12G gt12

                                  @Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                                  Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

                                  Totally agree.

                                  Shark was mentioning on Facebook last night that with a stadium at 25k, it is only in competition for tests with Waikato Stadium, Albany etc. That makes it rather small. 3rd biggest city in NZ and growing.

                                  Yeah, 30k would have been a nice number, with extra seating brought in to get to 35k, but personally I’m happy that it’s undercover as that will make attending games easier. My only problem is that no doubt my boy will end up a Crusaders fan, which will be unbearable.

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                                  Hooroo
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                                  @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  @Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  @Kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  @Hooroo it should be a minimum of 35,000 to be a viable stadium for that area. Not bothered by the roof, something different.

                                  Seems a waste of time having insurance if you can’t build a like for like replacement.

                                  Totally agree.

                                  Shark was mentioning on Facebook last night that with a stadium at 25k, it is only in competition for tests with Waikato Stadium, Albany etc. That makes it rather small. 3rd biggest city in NZ and growing.

                                  Yeah, 30k would have been a nice number, with extra seating brought in to get to 35k, but personally I’m happy that it’s undercover as that will make attending games easier. My only problem is that no doubt my boy will end up a Crusaders fan, which will be unbearable.

                                  Just buy him a shirt from you franchise! That is usually enough to buy loyalty.

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                                    30k+5k would be nice, but 25k+5k is probably realistic. Not a big surprise from earlier discussions.

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                                      Duluth
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                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/118071990/christchurch-stadium-how-much-ratepayers-will-contribute

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                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/118071990/christchurch-stadium-how-much-ratepayers-will-contribute

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                                        @Duluth the rugby attendance figures seemed ... optimistic

                                        six to seven Super Rugby games (15,000 attendees), and four to five provincial rugby games (7000 attendees).

                                        anyone have the 2019 attendance figures? I can't find them with a quick google (but this was itnerestinghttps://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp_results.php?sid=5)

                                        that said, this article from 2017 may mean 15k is achievable. I just remember being at AMI for the Mitre 10 cup final in 2010, and there were less than 3,000 people there.

                                        The Hurricanes were attracting an average of 16,901 people to Westpac Stadium each week, more than 3000 more than in 2015. Blues crowds were up 18.27 per cent, an extra 2000 people each night. The Chiefs and Crusaders had small gains, but gains they had.
                                        Only the Highlanders saw crowds decline in that period, down from an average of 18,500 in 2015 to 14,751 in 2017 - a drop of 20.26 per cent.
                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/104613809/new-zealand-super-rugby-crowds-good-but-south-africa-australia-on-life-support

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @Duluth the rugby attendance figures seemed ... optimistic

                                          six to seven Super Rugby games (15,000 attendees), and four to five provincial rugby games (7000 attendees).

                                          anyone have the 2019 attendance figures? I can't find them with a quick google (but this was itnerestinghttps://www.austadiums.com/sport/comp_results.php?sid=5)

                                          that said, this article from 2017 may mean 15k is achievable. I just remember being at AMI for the Mitre 10 cup final in 2010, and there were less than 3,000 people there.

                                          The Hurricanes were attracting an average of 16,901 people to Westpac Stadium each week, more than 3000 more than in 2015. Blues crowds were up 18.27 per cent, an extra 2000 people each night. The Chiefs and Crusaders had small gains, but gains they had.
                                          Only the Highlanders saw crowds decline in that period, down from an average of 18,500 in 2015 to 14,751 in 2017 - a drop of 20.26 per cent.
                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/104613809/new-zealand-super-rugby-crowds-good-but-south-africa-australia-on-life-support

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                                          KiwiMurph
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                                          @nzzp The super rugby attendance figures sound about right but the provincial attendance figures sound optimistic - does any team pull 7k average home crowds?

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