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    Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

    NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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    • TimT Tim

      Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

      NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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      @Tim said in Blues 2021:

      Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

      NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

      He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        @Tim said in Blues 2021:

        Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

        NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

        He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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        @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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        • TimT Tim

          @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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          @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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            #199

            @Bovidae Yeah, started a lot of games for College Rifles.

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            • TimT Tim

              With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

              Props

              Tu'inukuafe
              Hodgman
              N Mayhew
              O Tu'ungafasi
              Laulala
              Renata

              Hookers

              Parsons
              Eklund
              Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

              Locks

              Tuipulotu
              Pierce
              Goodhue
              Cowley-Tuioti
              Darry

              Loose forwards

              Gibson
              Hunt
              Papalii
              Robinson
              Sotutu
              A Ioane
              Riedlinger-Kapa

              Halfbacks

              Nock
              Christie
              Ruru

              1st Five Eighths

              Black
              Perofeta
              Plummer
              Heighton

              Midfield

              Faiane
              T Tele'a
              R Ioane
              TBC

              Outside Backs

              Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
              M Telea
              Narawa
              AJ Lam
              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
              Sullivan

              Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

              That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

              Out:

              Lindenmuth
              Mafileo
              Carroll
              Lamborn
              Tucker
              Barrett
              Marchent
              Hyland
              Duffie
              Page

              In:

              N Mayhew
              Laulala
              Darry
              Hunt
              TBC (midfield)
              AJ Lam
              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
              Sullivan

              Provincial breakdown:

              Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
              North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
              Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
              Counties - 2
              BOP - 3
              Ta$man - 3
              Canterbury - 1
              Taranaki - 2

              Match XXIII

              Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

              1 Hodgman
              2 Eklund
              3 Laulala
              4 Tuipulotu
              5 Pierce
              6 A Ioane
              7 Papalii
              8 Sotutu

              9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
              10 Black
              11 Clarke
              12 Faiane
              13 R Ioane
              14 M Telea
              15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

              16 Parsons
              17 Tu'inukuafe
              18 Tu'ungafasi
              19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
              20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
              21 Christie
              22 Plummer
              23 T Tele'a

              With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

              Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

              Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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              Nogusta
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              @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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              • N Nogusta

                @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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                @Nogusta said in Blues 2021:

                @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

                surely not! If so, well done on the good oil.

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                • N Nogusta

                  @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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                  #202

                  @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

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                    @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                    @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

                    Kid looks good.

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                      If Ruru has been released ... it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Canes picked him up with TJP gone and Booth injured.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        If Ruru has been released ... it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Canes picked him up with TJP gone and Booth injured.

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                        #205

                        @Stargazer he'd be selected as a lock for the canes though eh?

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                          wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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                            @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                            wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

                            I agree, based on what I have seen. His performance against Northland was top notch (sorry @taniwharugby )

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                              He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

                              He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

                                He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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                                taniwharugby
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                                @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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                                  #210

                                  I would guess it's about signing a younger halfback like Funaki

                                  If they signed all 3 established halfbacks another franchise might've given Funaki a full contract. In the short term it could be a bit of a risk though

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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                                    #211

                                    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                    wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

                                    Agreed.
                                    This was a 'whisper' I heard prior to the start of M10.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                      Props

                                      Tu'inukuafe
                                      Hodgman
                                      N Mayhew
                                      O Tu'ungafasi
                                      Laulala
                                      Renata

                                      Hookers

                                      Parsons
                                      Eklund
                                      Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                      Locks

                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Pierce
                                      Goodhue
                                      Cowley-Tuioti
                                      Darry

                                      Loose forwards

                                      Gibson
                                      Hunt
                                      Papalii
                                      Robinson
                                      Sotutu
                                      A Ioane
                                      Riedlinger-Kapa

                                      Halfbacks

                                      Nock
                                      Christie
                                      Ruru

                                      1st Five Eighths

                                      Black
                                      Perofeta
                                      Plummer
                                      Heighton

                                      Midfield

                                      Faiane
                                      T Tele'a
                                      R Ioane
                                      TBC

                                      Outside Backs

                                      Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                      M Telea
                                      Narawa
                                      AJ Lam
                                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                      Sullivan

                                      Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                      That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                      Out:

                                      Lindenmuth
                                      Mafileo
                                      Carroll
                                      Lamborn
                                      Tucker
                                      Barrett
                                      Marchent
                                      Hyland
                                      Duffie
                                      Page

                                      In:

                                      N Mayhew
                                      Laulala
                                      Darry
                                      Hunt
                                      TBC (midfield)
                                      AJ Lam
                                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                      Sullivan

                                      Provincial breakdown:

                                      Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                      North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                      Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                      Counties - 2
                                      BOP - 3
                                      Ta$man - 3
                                      Canterbury - 1
                                      Taranaki - 2

                                      Match XXIII

                                      Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                      1 Hodgman
                                      2 Eklund
                                      3 Laulala
                                      4 Tuipulotu
                                      5 Pierce
                                      6 A Ioane
                                      7 Papalii
                                      8 Sotutu

                                      9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                      10 Black
                                      11 Clarke
                                      12 Faiane
                                      13 R Ioane
                                      14 M Telea
                                      15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                      16 Parsons
                                      17 Tu'inukuafe
                                      18 Tu'ungafasi
                                      19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                      20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                      21 Christie
                                      22 Plummer
                                      23 T Tele'a

                                      With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                      Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                      Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                      Dice
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                                      #212

                                      @Tim I think AJ Lam or Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens could possibly take that right wing spot off Mark Telea. Both had better M10 seasons than Telea.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

                                        He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

                                        DiceD Offline
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                                        Dice
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #213

                                        @KiwiMurph The coaches basically gave up on him last season.

                                        Sadly, his service is just not quick enough for Super Rugby.

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                                          I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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