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  • TimT Tim

    Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

    NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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    @Tim said in Blues 2021:

    Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

    NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

    He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      @Tim said in Blues 2021:

      Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

      NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

      He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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      @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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      • TimT Tim

        @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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        @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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          @Bovidae Yeah, started a lot of games for College Rifles.

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          • TimT Tim

            With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

            Props

            Tu'inukuafe
            Hodgman
            N Mayhew
            O Tu'ungafasi
            Laulala
            Renata

            Hookers

            Parsons
            Eklund
            Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

            Locks

            Tuipulotu
            Pierce
            Goodhue
            Cowley-Tuioti
            Darry

            Loose forwards

            Gibson
            Hunt
            Papalii
            Robinson
            Sotutu
            A Ioane
            Riedlinger-Kapa

            Halfbacks

            Nock
            Christie
            Ruru

            1st Five Eighths

            Black
            Perofeta
            Plummer
            Heighton

            Midfield

            Faiane
            T Tele'a
            R Ioane
            TBC

            Outside Backs

            Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
            M Telea
            Narawa
            AJ Lam
            Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
            Sullivan

            Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

            That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

            Out:

            Lindenmuth
            Mafileo
            Carroll
            Lamborn
            Tucker
            Barrett
            Marchent
            Hyland
            Duffie
            Page

            In:

            N Mayhew
            Laulala
            Darry
            Hunt
            TBC (midfield)
            AJ Lam
            Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
            Sullivan

            Provincial breakdown:

            Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
            North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
            Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
            Counties - 2
            BOP - 3
            Ta$man - 3
            Canterbury - 1
            Taranaki - 2

            Match XXIII

            Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

            1 Hodgman
            2 Eklund
            3 Laulala
            4 Tuipulotu
            5 Pierce
            6 A Ioane
            7 Papalii
            8 Sotutu

            9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
            10 Black
            11 Clarke
            12 Faiane
            13 R Ioane
            14 M Telea
            15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

            16 Parsons
            17 Tu'inukuafe
            18 Tu'ungafasi
            19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
            20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
            21 Christie
            22 Plummer
            23 T Tele'a

            With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

            Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

            Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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            @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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            • N Nogusta

              @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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              @Nogusta said in Blues 2021:

              @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

              surely not! If so, well done on the good oil.

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              • N Nogusta

                @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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                @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

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                • TimT Tim

                  @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

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                  @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                  @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

                  Kid looks good.

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                    If Ruru has been released ... it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Canes picked him up with TJP gone and Booth injured.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      If Ruru has been released ... it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Canes picked him up with TJP gone and Booth injured.

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                      @Stargazer he'd be selected as a lock for the canes though eh?

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                        wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                          wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

                          I agree, based on what I have seen. His performance against Northland was top notch (sorry @taniwharugby )

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                            He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

                            He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

                              He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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                              @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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                                #210

                                I would guess it's about signing a younger halfback like Funaki

                                If they signed all 3 established halfbacks another franchise might've given Funaki a full contract. In the short term it could be a bit of a risk though

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                  wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

                                  Agreed.
                                  This was a 'whisper' I heard prior to the start of M10.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                    Props

                                    Tu'inukuafe
                                    Hodgman
                                    N Mayhew
                                    O Tu'ungafasi
                                    Laulala
                                    Renata

                                    Hookers

                                    Parsons
                                    Eklund
                                    Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                    Locks

                                    Tuipulotu
                                    Pierce
                                    Goodhue
                                    Cowley-Tuioti
                                    Darry

                                    Loose forwards

                                    Gibson
                                    Hunt
                                    Papalii
                                    Robinson
                                    Sotutu
                                    A Ioane
                                    Riedlinger-Kapa

                                    Halfbacks

                                    Nock
                                    Christie
                                    Ruru

                                    1st Five Eighths

                                    Black
                                    Perofeta
                                    Plummer
                                    Heighton

                                    Midfield

                                    Faiane
                                    T Tele'a
                                    R Ioane
                                    TBC

                                    Outside Backs

                                    Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                    M Telea
                                    Narawa
                                    AJ Lam
                                    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                    Sullivan

                                    Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                    That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                    Out:

                                    Lindenmuth
                                    Mafileo
                                    Carroll
                                    Lamborn
                                    Tucker
                                    Barrett
                                    Marchent
                                    Hyland
                                    Duffie
                                    Page

                                    In:

                                    N Mayhew
                                    Laulala
                                    Darry
                                    Hunt
                                    TBC (midfield)
                                    AJ Lam
                                    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                    Sullivan

                                    Provincial breakdown:

                                    Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                    North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                    Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                    Counties - 2
                                    BOP - 3
                                    Ta$man - 3
                                    Canterbury - 1
                                    Taranaki - 2

                                    Match XXIII

                                    Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                    1 Hodgman
                                    2 Eklund
                                    3 Laulala
                                    4 Tuipulotu
                                    5 Pierce
                                    6 A Ioane
                                    7 Papalii
                                    8 Sotutu

                                    9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                    10 Black
                                    11 Clarke
                                    12 Faiane
                                    13 R Ioane
                                    14 M Telea
                                    15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                    16 Parsons
                                    17 Tu'inukuafe
                                    18 Tu'ungafasi
                                    19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                    20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                    21 Christie
                                    22 Plummer
                                    23 T Tele'a

                                    With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                    Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                    Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                    @Tim I think AJ Lam or Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens could possibly take that right wing spot off Mark Telea. Both had better M10 seasons than Telea.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

                                      He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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                                      @KiwiMurph The coaches basically gave up on him last season.

                                      Sadly, his service is just not quick enough for Super Rugby.

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                                        I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                          I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                                          @Crazy-Horse He wasn't great in his last two games coming off injury, but before the injury, he was maybe the form winger in the M10.

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