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Blues 2021

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    wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

      wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

      I agree, based on what I have seen. His performance against Northland was top notch (sorry @taniwharugby )

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        He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

        He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

          He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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          @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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            I would guess it's about signing a younger halfback like Funaki

            If they signed all 3 established halfbacks another franchise might've given Funaki a full contract. In the short term it could be a bit of a risk though

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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              @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

              wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

              Agreed.
              This was a 'whisper' I heard prior to the start of M10.

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              • TimT Tim

                With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                Props

                Tu'inukuafe
                Hodgman
                N Mayhew
                O Tu'ungafasi
                Laulala
                Renata

                Hookers

                Parsons
                Eklund
                Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                Locks

                Tuipulotu
                Pierce
                Goodhue
                Cowley-Tuioti
                Darry

                Loose forwards

                Gibson
                Hunt
                Papalii
                Robinson
                Sotutu
                A Ioane
                Riedlinger-Kapa

                Halfbacks

                Nock
                Christie
                Ruru

                1st Five Eighths

                Black
                Perofeta
                Plummer
                Heighton

                Midfield

                Faiane
                T Tele'a
                R Ioane
                TBC

                Outside Backs

                Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                M Telea
                Narawa
                AJ Lam
                Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                Sullivan

                Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                Out:

                Lindenmuth
                Mafileo
                Carroll
                Lamborn
                Tucker
                Barrett
                Marchent
                Hyland
                Duffie
                Page

                In:

                N Mayhew
                Laulala
                Darry
                Hunt
                TBC (midfield)
                AJ Lam
                Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                Sullivan

                Provincial breakdown:

                Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                Counties - 2
                BOP - 3
                Ta$man - 3
                Canterbury - 1
                Taranaki - 2

                Match XXIII

                Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                1 Hodgman
                2 Eklund
                3 Laulala
                4 Tuipulotu
                5 Pierce
                6 A Ioane
                7 Papalii
                8 Sotutu

                9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                10 Black
                11 Clarke
                12 Faiane
                13 R Ioane
                14 M Telea
                15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                16 Parsons
                17 Tu'inukuafe
                18 Tu'ungafasi
                19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                21 Christie
                22 Plummer
                23 T Tele'a

                With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                @Tim I think AJ Lam or Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens could possibly take that right wing spot off Mark Telea. Both had better M10 seasons than Telea.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

                  He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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                  @KiwiMurph The coaches basically gave up on him last season.

                  Sadly, his service is just not quick enough for Super Rugby.

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                    I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                      @Crazy-Horse He wasn't great in his last two games coming off injury, but before the injury, he was maybe the form winger in the M10.

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                        @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2021:

                        I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

                        Hah that's weird to see when I've missed the last couple of games and he was absolutely carving up prior to that. Wasn't he high up in both tries scored and assists?

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                          Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                            @Tim Hasn't been on, yet.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                              @Tim It's more a group discussion about several subjects thus far.

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                                Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                                  @Stargazer surely they don't sign Lam and Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens? Idk I'm just hopeful he plays for the Chiefs.

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                                    Leon talking about Zarn Sullivan. Didn't use the word "signed", but it seems clear that he's one of the new signings.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                                      @Stargazer Cheers.

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                                        Anyone else had the impression from the interview with the AB7s coach that Clarke, Rayasi, Koroi and Nanai-Seturo would play sevens in 2021, but would play SR as well? I assume Gregory, too, but it all went a bit fast. Would have to hear it again. I'm sure it will be posted on YouTube.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Anyone else had the impression from the interview with the AB7s coach that Clarke, Rayasi, Koroi and Nanai-Seturo would play sevens in 2021, but would play SR as well? I assume Gregory, too, but it all went a bit fast. Would have to hear it again. I'm sure it will be posted on YouTube.

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                                          @Stargazer yeah that's my impression aswell. Maybe available for Super Rugby Aotearoa but not the comp with Aus...

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