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Blues 2021

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

    wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

    I agree, based on what I have seen. His performance against Northland was top notch (sorry @taniwharugby )

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      He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

      He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

        He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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        @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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          I would guess it's about signing a younger halfback like Funaki

          If they signed all 3 established halfbacks another franchise might've given Funaki a full contract. In the short term it could be a bit of a risk though

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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            @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

            wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

            Agreed.
            This was a 'whisper' I heard prior to the start of M10.

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            • TimT Tim

              With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

              Props

              Tu'inukuafe
              Hodgman
              N Mayhew
              O Tu'ungafasi
              Laulala
              Renata

              Hookers

              Parsons
              Eklund
              Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

              Locks

              Tuipulotu
              Pierce
              Goodhue
              Cowley-Tuioti
              Darry

              Loose forwards

              Gibson
              Hunt
              Papalii
              Robinson
              Sotutu
              A Ioane
              Riedlinger-Kapa

              Halfbacks

              Nock
              Christie
              Ruru

              1st Five Eighths

              Black
              Perofeta
              Plummer
              Heighton

              Midfield

              Faiane
              T Tele'a
              R Ioane
              TBC

              Outside Backs

              Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
              M Telea
              Narawa
              AJ Lam
              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
              Sullivan

              Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

              That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

              Out:

              Lindenmuth
              Mafileo
              Carroll
              Lamborn
              Tucker
              Barrett
              Marchent
              Hyland
              Duffie
              Page

              In:

              N Mayhew
              Laulala
              Darry
              Hunt
              TBC (midfield)
              AJ Lam
              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
              Sullivan

              Provincial breakdown:

              Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
              North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
              Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
              Counties - 2
              BOP - 3
              Ta$man - 3
              Canterbury - 1
              Taranaki - 2

              Match XXIII

              Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

              1 Hodgman
              2 Eklund
              3 Laulala
              4 Tuipulotu
              5 Pierce
              6 A Ioane
              7 Papalii
              8 Sotutu

              9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
              10 Black
              11 Clarke
              12 Faiane
              13 R Ioane
              14 M Telea
              15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

              16 Parsons
              17 Tu'inukuafe
              18 Tu'ungafasi
              19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
              20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
              21 Christie
              22 Plummer
              23 T Tele'a

              With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

              Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

              Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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              @Tim I think AJ Lam or Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens could possibly take that right wing spot off Mark Telea. Both had better M10 seasons than Telea.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

                He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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                @KiwiMurph The coaches basically gave up on him last season.

                Sadly, his service is just not quick enough for Super Rugby.

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                  I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                    I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                    @Crazy-Horse He wasn't great in his last two games coming off injury, but before the injury, he was maybe the form winger in the M10.

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                      @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2021:

                      I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

                      Hah that's weird to see when I've missed the last couple of games and he was absolutely carving up prior to that. Wasn't he high up in both tries scored and assists?

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                        Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                          @Tim Hasn't been on, yet.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                            @Tim It's more a group discussion about several subjects thus far.

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                              Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                                @Stargazer surely they don't sign Lam and Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens? Idk I'm just hopeful he plays for the Chiefs.

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                                  Leon talking about Zarn Sullivan. Didn't use the word "signed", but it seems clear that he's one of the new signings.

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                                    Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                                    @Stargazer Cheers.

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                                      Anyone else had the impression from the interview with the AB7s coach that Clarke, Rayasi, Koroi and Nanai-Seturo would play sevens in 2021, but would play SR as well? I assume Gregory, too, but it all went a bit fast. Would have to hear it again. I'm sure it will be posted on YouTube.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        Anyone else had the impression from the interview with the AB7s coach that Clarke, Rayasi, Koroi and Nanai-Seturo would play sevens in 2021, but would play SR as well? I assume Gregory, too, but it all went a bit fast. Would have to hear it again. I'm sure it will be posted on YouTube.

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                                        @Stargazer yeah that's my impression aswell. Maybe available for Super Rugby Aotearoa but not the comp with Aus...

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                                          Did this happen?

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