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Blues 2021

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

    wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

    Agreed.
    This was a 'whisper' I heard prior to the start of M10.

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    • TimT Tim

      With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

      Props

      Tu'inukuafe
      Hodgman
      N Mayhew
      O Tu'ungafasi
      Laulala
      Renata

      Hookers

      Parsons
      Eklund
      Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

      Locks

      Tuipulotu
      Pierce
      Goodhue
      Cowley-Tuioti
      Darry

      Loose forwards

      Gibson
      Hunt
      Papalii
      Robinson
      Sotutu
      A Ioane
      Riedlinger-Kapa

      Halfbacks

      Nock
      Christie
      Ruru

      1st Five Eighths

      Black
      Perofeta
      Plummer
      Heighton

      Midfield

      Faiane
      T Tele'a
      R Ioane
      TBC

      Outside Backs

      Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
      M Telea
      Narawa
      AJ Lam
      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
      Sullivan

      Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

      That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

      Out:

      Lindenmuth
      Mafileo
      Carroll
      Lamborn
      Tucker
      Barrett
      Marchent
      Hyland
      Duffie
      Page

      In:

      N Mayhew
      Laulala
      Darry
      Hunt
      TBC (midfield)
      AJ Lam
      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
      Sullivan

      Provincial breakdown:

      Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
      North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
      Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
      Counties - 2
      BOP - 3
      Ta$man - 3
      Canterbury - 1
      Taranaki - 2

      Match XXIII

      Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

      1 Hodgman
      2 Eklund
      3 Laulala
      4 Tuipulotu
      5 Pierce
      6 A Ioane
      7 Papalii
      8 Sotutu

      9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
      10 Black
      11 Clarke
      12 Faiane
      13 R Ioane
      14 M Telea
      15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

      16 Parsons
      17 Tu'inukuafe
      18 Tu'ungafasi
      19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
      20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
      21 Christie
      22 Plummer
      23 T Tele'a

      With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

      Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

      Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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      @Tim I think AJ Lam or Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens could possibly take that right wing spot off Mark Telea. Both had better M10 seasons than Telea.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

        He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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        @KiwiMurph The coaches basically gave up on him last season.

        Sadly, his service is just not quick enough for Super Rugby.

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          I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

            I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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            @Crazy-Horse He wasn't great in his last two games coming off injury, but before the injury, he was maybe the form winger in the M10.

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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              @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2021:

              I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

              Hah that's weird to see when I've missed the last couple of games and he was absolutely carving up prior to that. Wasn't he high up in both tries scored and assists?

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                Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                • TimT Tim

                  Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                  @Tim Hasn't been on, yet.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                    @Tim It's more a group discussion about several subjects thus far.

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                      Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                        @Stargazer surely they don't sign Lam and Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens? Idk I'm just hopeful he plays for the Chiefs.

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                          Leon talking about Zarn Sullivan. Didn't use the word "signed", but it seems clear that he's one of the new signings.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                            @Stargazer Cheers.

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                              Anyone else had the impression from the interview with the AB7s coach that Clarke, Rayasi, Koroi and Nanai-Seturo would play sevens in 2021, but would play SR as well? I assume Gregory, too, but it all went a bit fast. Would have to hear it again. I'm sure it will be posted on YouTube.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                Anyone else had the impression from the interview with the AB7s coach that Clarke, Rayasi, Koroi and Nanai-Seturo would play sevens in 2021, but would play SR as well? I assume Gregory, too, but it all went a bit fast. Would have to hear it again. I'm sure it will be posted on YouTube.

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                                @Stargazer yeah that's my impression aswell. Maybe available for Super Rugby Aotearoa but not the comp with Aus...

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                                  Did this happen?

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                                  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                    FB_IMG_1606814619445.jpg

                                    Did this happen?

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                                    @Yeetyaah Read a few posts back in this thread and you have your answer. 🙂

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2021:

                                      I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

                                      Hah that's weird to see when I've missed the last couple of games and he was absolutely carving up prior to that. Wasn't he high up in both tries scored and assists?

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                                      @Bones said in Blues 2021:

                                      @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2021:

                                      I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

                                      Hah that's weird to see when I've missed the last couple of games and he was absolutely carving up prior to that. Wasn't he high up in both tries scored and assists?

                                      I never saw the early games where Lam was carving up. The ones I saw he was solid enough - no glaring errors. I couldn't even tell if he was fast ot not.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @Yeetyaah Read a few posts back in this thread and you have your answer. 🙂

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                                        @Stargazer I read, but y'all said it wasn't confirmed by MacDonald and nothing confirmed about either of them.

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                                          Blues 2021 squad:

                                          Hookers: Ray Niuia ( Ta$man), James Parsons (North Harbour), Soane Vikena (Auckland).

                                          Props: Alex Hodgman (Auckland), Nepo Laulala (Counties Manukau), James Lay (Auckland), Marcel Renata (Auckland), Karl Tu’inukuafe (North Harbour), Ofa Tuungafasi (Auckland).

                                          Locks: Gerard Cowley-Tuioti (North Harbour), Sam Darry (Canterbury), Josh Goodhue (Northland), Jacob Pierce (North Harbour), Patrick Tuipulotu (Auckland).

                                          Loose forwards: Blake Gibson (Auckland), Dillon Hunt (North Harbour), Akira Ioane (Auckland), Dalton Papalii (Counties Manukau), Taine Plumtree (Wellington), Tom Robinson (Northland), Hoskins Sotutu (Auckland).

                                          Halfbacks: Finlay Christie ( Ta$man), Sam Nock (Northland), Jonathan Ruru (Auckland).

                                          Inside backs: Otere Black (Bay of Plenty), Stephen Perofeta (Taranaki), Harry Plummer (Auckland).

                                          Midfield: TJ Faiane (Auckland), Rieko Ioane (Auckland), Tanielu Tele’a (Auckland).

                                          Outside backs: Caleb Clarke (Auckland), AJ Lam (Auckland), Jone Macilai-Tori (Northland), Emoni Narawa (Bay of Plenty), Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens (Taranaki), Zarn Sullivan (Auckland), Mark Telea ( Ta$man).

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