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Blues 2021

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

    He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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    @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @KiwiMurph yeah there's that, maybe it's knowing there is pressure from Nock & Christie finally given him the arse kick he needed, OR, maybe he has requested a release knowing he may not get much time behind them?

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      I would guess it's about signing a younger halfback like Funaki

      If they signed all 3 established halfbacks another franchise might've given Funaki a full contract. In the short term it could be a bit of a risk though

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

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        @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

        wow, I thought he has been bloody good for Auckland this year too, probably his best season.

        Agreed.
        This was a 'whisper' I heard prior to the start of M10.

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        • TimT Tim

          With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

          Props

          Tu'inukuafe
          Hodgman
          N Mayhew
          O Tu'ungafasi
          Laulala
          Renata

          Hookers

          Parsons
          Eklund
          Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

          Locks

          Tuipulotu
          Pierce
          Goodhue
          Cowley-Tuioti
          Darry

          Loose forwards

          Gibson
          Hunt
          Papalii
          Robinson
          Sotutu
          A Ioane
          Riedlinger-Kapa

          Halfbacks

          Nock
          Christie
          Ruru

          1st Five Eighths

          Black
          Perofeta
          Plummer
          Heighton

          Midfield

          Faiane
          T Tele'a
          R Ioane
          TBC

          Outside Backs

          Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
          M Telea
          Narawa
          AJ Lam
          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
          Sullivan

          Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

          That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

          Out:

          Lindenmuth
          Mafileo
          Carroll
          Lamborn
          Tucker
          Barrett
          Marchent
          Hyland
          Duffie
          Page

          In:

          N Mayhew
          Laulala
          Darry
          Hunt
          TBC (midfield)
          AJ Lam
          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
          Sullivan

          Provincial breakdown:

          Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
          North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
          Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
          Counties - 2
          BOP - 3
          Ta$man - 3
          Canterbury - 1
          Taranaki - 2

          Match XXIII

          Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

          1 Hodgman
          2 Eklund
          3 Laulala
          4 Tuipulotu
          5 Pierce
          6 A Ioane
          7 Papalii
          8 Sotutu

          9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
          10 Black
          11 Clarke
          12 Faiane
          13 R Ioane
          14 M Telea
          15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

          16 Parsons
          17 Tu'inukuafe
          18 Tu'ungafasi
          19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
          20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
          21 Christie
          22 Plummer
          23 T Tele'a

          With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

          Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

          Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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          @Tim I think AJ Lam or Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens could possibly take that right wing spot off Mark Telea. Both had better M10 seasons than Telea.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            He was good for Auckland, however, it's been proven he's not Super Rugby starter quality and arguably not even Super Rugby bench quality.

            He's 27 years old - I'd rather the Blues have someone they think they can develop as the 3rd halfback.

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            @KiwiMurph The coaches basically gave up on him last season.

            Sadly, his service is just not quick enough for Super Rugby.

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              I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                @Crazy-Horse He wasn't great in his last two games coming off injury, but before the injury, he was maybe the form winger in the M10.

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

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                  @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2021:

                  I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

                  Hah that's weird to see when I've missed the last couple of games and he was absolutely carving up prior to that. Wasn't he high up in both tries scored and assists?

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                    Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                    • TimT Tim

                      Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                      @Tim Hasn't been on, yet.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Was there anything on the Breakdown of interest from Leon MacDonald?

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                        @Tim It's more a group discussion about several subjects thus far.

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                          Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                            @Stargazer surely they don't sign Lam and Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens? Idk I'm just hopeful he plays for the Chiefs.

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                              Leon talking about Zarn Sullivan. Didn't use the word "signed", but it seems clear that he's one of the new signings.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                Tony Brown just let it slip that the Blues have signed AJ Lam. It did sound like the Highlanders tried to sign him, too, but he wanted to stay close to his family.

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                                @Stargazer Cheers.

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                                  Anyone else had the impression from the interview with the AB7s coach that Clarke, Rayasi, Koroi and Nanai-Seturo would play sevens in 2021, but would play SR as well? I assume Gregory, too, but it all went a bit fast. Would have to hear it again. I'm sure it will be posted on YouTube.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    Anyone else had the impression from the interview with the AB7s coach that Clarke, Rayasi, Koroi and Nanai-Seturo would play sevens in 2021, but would play SR as well? I assume Gregory, too, but it all went a bit fast. Would have to hear it again. I'm sure it will be posted on YouTube.

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                                    @Stargazer yeah that's my impression aswell. Maybe available for Super Rugby Aotearoa but not the comp with Aus...

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                                      Did this happen?

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                                      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                        FB_IMG_1606814619445.jpg

                                        Did this happen?

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                                        @Yeetyaah Read a few posts back in this thread and you have your answer. 🙂

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2021:

                                          I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

                                          Hah that's weird to see when I've missed the last couple of games and he was absolutely carving up prior to that. Wasn't he high up in both tries scored and assists?

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                                          @Bones said in Blues 2021:

                                          @Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2021:

                                          I have yet to see AJ Lam do anything to make him stand out, good or bad. Have I missed something?

                                          Hah that's weird to see when I've missed the last couple of games and he was absolutely carving up prior to that. Wasn't he high up in both tries scored and assists?

                                          I never saw the early games where Lam was carving up. The ones I saw he was solid enough - no glaring errors. I couldn't even tell if he was fast ot not.

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