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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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    @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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      A sign of the times when a prop is taller than backs and a loose forward.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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        @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

        @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

        If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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          #183

          Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

          Props

          Tu'inukuafe
          Hodgman
          N Mayhew
          O Tu'ungafasi
          Laulala
          Renata

          Hookers

          Parsons
          Eklund
          Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

          Locks

          Tuipulotu
          Pierce
          Goodhue
          Cowley-Tuioti
          Darry

          Loose forwards

          Gibson
          Hunt
          Papalii
          Robinson
          Sotutu
          A Ioane
          Riedlinger-Kapa

          Halfbacks

          Nock
          Christie
          Ruru

          1st Five Eighths

          Black
          Perofeta
          Plummer
          Heighton

          Midfield

          Faiane
          T Tele'a
          R Ioane
          TBC

          Outside Backs

          Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
          M Telea
          Narawa
          AJ Lam
          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
          Sullivan

          Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

          38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

          Out:

          Lindenmuth
          Mafileo
          Carroll
          Lamborn
          Tucker
          Barrett
          Marchent
          Hyland
          Duffie
          Page

          In:

          N Mayhew
          Laulala
          Darry
          Hunt
          TBC (midfield)
          AJ Lam
          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
          Sullivan

          Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
          North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
          Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
          Counties - 2
          BOP - 3
          Ta$man - 3
          Canterbury - 1
          Taranaki - 2

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            Tim
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            #184

            Match XXIII

            Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

            1 Hodgman
            2 Eklund
            3 Laulala
            4 Tuipulotu
            5 Pierce
            6 A Ioane
            7 Papalii
            8 Sotutu

            9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
            10 Black
            11 Clarke
            12 Faiane
            13 R Ioane
            14 M Telea
            15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

            16 Parsons
            17 Tu'inukuafe
            18 Tu'ungafasi
            19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
            20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
            21 Christie
            22 Plummer
            23 T Tele'a

            With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

            Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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            • TimT Tim

              Match XXIII

              Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

              1 Hodgman
              2 Eklund
              3 Laulala
              4 Tuipulotu
              5 Pierce
              6 A Ioane
              7 Papalii
              8 Sotutu

              9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
              10 Black
              11 Clarke
              12 Faiane
              13 R Ioane
              14 M Telea
              15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

              16 Parsons
              17 Tu'inukuafe
              18 Tu'ungafasi
              19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
              20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
              21 Christie
              22 Plummer
              23 T Tele'a

              With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

              Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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              @Tim said in Blues 2021:

              Match XIII

              Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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              • HoorooH Hooroo

                @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                Match XIII

                Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                Tim
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                #186

                @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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                  MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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                    Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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                      Tim
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                      #189

                      With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                      Props

                      Tu'inukuafe
                      Hodgman
                      N Mayhew
                      O Tu'ungafasi
                      Laulala
                      Renata

                      Hookers

                      Parsons
                      Eklund
                      Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                      Locks

                      Tuipulotu
                      Pierce
                      Goodhue
                      Cowley-Tuioti
                      Darry

                      Loose forwards

                      Gibson
                      Hunt
                      Papalii
                      Robinson
                      Sotutu
                      A Ioane
                      Riedlinger-Kapa

                      Halfbacks

                      Nock
                      Christie
                      Ruru

                      1st Five Eighths

                      Black
                      Perofeta
                      Plummer
                      Heighton

                      Midfield

                      Faiane
                      T Tele'a
                      R Ioane
                      TBC

                      Outside Backs

                      Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                      M Telea
                      Narawa
                      AJ Lam
                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                      Sullivan

                      Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                      That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                      Out:

                      Lindenmuth
                      Mafileo
                      Carroll
                      Lamborn
                      Tucker
                      Barrett
                      Marchent
                      Hyland
                      Duffie
                      Page

                      In:

                      N Mayhew
                      Laulala
                      Darry
                      Hunt
                      TBC (midfield)
                      AJ Lam
                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                      Sullivan

                      Provincial breakdown:

                      Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                      North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                      Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                      Counties - 2
                      BOP - 3
                      Ta$man - 3
                      Canterbury - 1
                      Taranaki - 2

                      Match XXIII

                      Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                      1 Hodgman
                      2 Eklund
                      3 Laulala
                      4 Tuipulotu
                      5 Pierce
                      6 A Ioane
                      7 Papalii
                      8 Sotutu

                      9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                      10 Black
                      11 Clarke
                      12 Faiane
                      13 R Ioane
                      14 M Telea
                      15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                      16 Parsons
                      17 Tu'inukuafe
                      18 Tu'ungafasi
                      19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                      20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                      21 Christie
                      22 Plummer
                      23 T Tele'a

                      With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                      Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                      Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                        Props

                        Tu'inukuafe
                        Hodgman
                        N Mayhew
                        O Tu'ungafasi
                        Laulala
                        Renata

                        Hookers

                        Parsons
                        Eklund
                        Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                        Locks

                        Tuipulotu
                        Pierce
                        Goodhue
                        Cowley-Tuioti
                        Darry

                        Loose forwards

                        Gibson
                        Hunt
                        Papalii
                        Robinson
                        Sotutu
                        A Ioane
                        Riedlinger-Kapa

                        Halfbacks

                        Nock
                        Christie
                        Ruru

                        1st Five Eighths

                        Black
                        Perofeta
                        Plummer
                        Heighton

                        Midfield

                        Faiane
                        T Tele'a
                        R Ioane
                        TBC

                        Outside Backs

                        Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                        M Telea
                        Narawa
                        AJ Lam
                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                        Sullivan

                        Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                        That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                        Out:

                        Lindenmuth
                        Mafileo
                        Carroll
                        Lamborn
                        Tucker
                        Barrett
                        Marchent
                        Hyland
                        Duffie
                        Page

                        In:

                        N Mayhew
                        Laulala
                        Darry
                        Hunt
                        TBC (midfield)
                        AJ Lam
                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                        Sullivan

                        Provincial breakdown:

                        Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                        North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                        Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                        Counties - 2
                        BOP - 3
                        Ta$man - 3
                        Canterbury - 1
                        Taranaki - 2

                        Match XXIII

                        Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                        1 Hodgman
                        2 Eklund
                        3 Laulala
                        4 Tuipulotu
                        5 Pierce
                        6 A Ioane
                        7 Papalii
                        8 Sotutu

                        9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                        10 Black
                        11 Clarke
                        12 Faiane
                        13 R Ioane
                        14 M Telea
                        15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                        16 Parsons
                        17 Tu'inukuafe
                        18 Tu'ungafasi
                        19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                        20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                        21 Christie
                        22 Plummer
                        23 T Tele'a

                        With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                        Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                        Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                        @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                        As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                          As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                          @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                          As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                          really?

                          Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                            @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                            @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                            As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                            really?

                            Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                            #192

                            @nzzp i just meant more reliant, didn't say they were shit or anything, plus an injury and it does get thin.

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                              What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                                @KiwiMurph Maybe a bit small?

                                Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u might be on the fringe too?

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                                  Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                  NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                    NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                                    @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                    Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                    NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                                    He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                      Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                      NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                                      He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                                      @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                                        @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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                                          @Bovidae Yeah, started a lot of games for College Rifles.

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