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    Tim
    wrote on last edited by Tim
    #183

    Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

    Props

    Tu'inukuafe
    Hodgman
    N Mayhew
    O Tu'ungafasi
    Laulala
    Renata

    Hookers

    Parsons
    Eklund
    Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

    Locks

    Tuipulotu
    Pierce
    Goodhue
    Cowley-Tuioti
    Darry

    Loose forwards

    Gibson
    Hunt
    Papalii
    Robinson
    Sotutu
    A Ioane
    Riedlinger-Kapa

    Halfbacks

    Nock
    Christie
    Ruru

    1st Five Eighths

    Black
    Perofeta
    Plummer
    Heighton

    Midfield

    Faiane
    T Tele'a
    R Ioane
    TBC

    Outside Backs

    Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
    M Telea
    Narawa
    AJ Lam
    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
    Sullivan

    Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

    38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

    Out:

    Lindenmuth
    Mafileo
    Carroll
    Lamborn
    Tucker
    Barrett
    Marchent
    Hyland
    Duffie
    Page

    In:

    N Mayhew
    Laulala
    Darry
    Hunt
    TBC (midfield)
    AJ Lam
    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
    Sullivan

    Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
    North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
    Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
    Counties - 2
    BOP - 3
    Ta$man - 3
    Canterbury - 1
    Taranaki - 2

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    • TimT Offline
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      Tim
      wrote on last edited by Tim
      #184

      Match XXIII

      Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

      1 Hodgman
      2 Eklund
      3 Laulala
      4 Tuipulotu
      5 Pierce
      6 A Ioane
      7 Papalii
      8 Sotutu

      9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
      10 Black
      11 Clarke
      12 Faiane
      13 R Ioane
      14 M Telea
      15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

      16 Parsons
      17 Tu'inukuafe
      18 Tu'ungafasi
      19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
      20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
      21 Christie
      22 Plummer
      23 T Tele'a

      With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

      Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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      • TimT Tim

        Match XXIII

        Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

        1 Hodgman
        2 Eklund
        3 Laulala
        4 Tuipulotu
        5 Pierce
        6 A Ioane
        7 Papalii
        8 Sotutu

        9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
        10 Black
        11 Clarke
        12 Faiane
        13 R Ioane
        14 M Telea
        15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

        16 Parsons
        17 Tu'inukuafe
        18 Tu'ungafasi
        19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
        20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
        21 Christie
        22 Plummer
        23 T Tele'a

        With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

        Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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        #185

        @Tim said in Blues 2021:

        Match XIII

        Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          @Tim said in Blues 2021:

          Match XIII

          Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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          Tim
          wrote on last edited by
          #186

          @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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            Tim
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            #187

            MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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            • TimT Offline
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              Tim
              wrote on last edited by
              #188

              Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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              • TimT Offline
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                Tim
                wrote on last edited by Tim
                #189

                With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                Props

                Tu'inukuafe
                Hodgman
                N Mayhew
                O Tu'ungafasi
                Laulala
                Renata

                Hookers

                Parsons
                Eklund
                Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                Locks

                Tuipulotu
                Pierce
                Goodhue
                Cowley-Tuioti
                Darry

                Loose forwards

                Gibson
                Hunt
                Papalii
                Robinson
                Sotutu
                A Ioane
                Riedlinger-Kapa

                Halfbacks

                Nock
                Christie
                Ruru

                1st Five Eighths

                Black
                Perofeta
                Plummer
                Heighton

                Midfield

                Faiane
                T Tele'a
                R Ioane
                TBC

                Outside Backs

                Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                M Telea
                Narawa
                AJ Lam
                Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                Sullivan

                Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                Out:

                Lindenmuth
                Mafileo
                Carroll
                Lamborn
                Tucker
                Barrett
                Marchent
                Hyland
                Duffie
                Page

                In:

                N Mayhew
                Laulala
                Darry
                Hunt
                TBC (midfield)
                AJ Lam
                Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                Sullivan

                Provincial breakdown:

                Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                Counties - 2
                BOP - 3
                Ta$man - 3
                Canterbury - 1
                Taranaki - 2

                Match XXIII

                Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                1 Hodgman
                2 Eklund
                3 Laulala
                4 Tuipulotu
                5 Pierce
                6 A Ioane
                7 Papalii
                8 Sotutu

                9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                10 Black
                11 Clarke
                12 Faiane
                13 R Ioane
                14 M Telea
                15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                16 Parsons
                17 Tu'inukuafe
                18 Tu'ungafasi
                19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                21 Christie
                22 Plummer
                23 T Tele'a

                With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                • TimT Tim

                  With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                  Props

                  Tu'inukuafe
                  Hodgman
                  N Mayhew
                  O Tu'ungafasi
                  Laulala
                  Renata

                  Hookers

                  Parsons
                  Eklund
                  Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                  Locks

                  Tuipulotu
                  Pierce
                  Goodhue
                  Cowley-Tuioti
                  Darry

                  Loose forwards

                  Gibson
                  Hunt
                  Papalii
                  Robinson
                  Sotutu
                  A Ioane
                  Riedlinger-Kapa

                  Halfbacks

                  Nock
                  Christie
                  Ruru

                  1st Five Eighths

                  Black
                  Perofeta
                  Plummer
                  Heighton

                  Midfield

                  Faiane
                  T Tele'a
                  R Ioane
                  TBC

                  Outside Backs

                  Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                  M Telea
                  Narawa
                  AJ Lam
                  Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                  Sullivan

                  Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                  That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                  Out:

                  Lindenmuth
                  Mafileo
                  Carroll
                  Lamborn
                  Tucker
                  Barrett
                  Marchent
                  Hyland
                  Duffie
                  Page

                  In:

                  N Mayhew
                  Laulala
                  Darry
                  Hunt
                  TBC (midfield)
                  AJ Lam
                  Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                  Sullivan

                  Provincial breakdown:

                  Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                  North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                  Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                  Counties - 2
                  BOP - 3
                  Ta$man - 3
                  Canterbury - 1
                  Taranaki - 2

                  Match XXIII

                  Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                  1 Hodgman
                  2 Eklund
                  3 Laulala
                  4 Tuipulotu
                  5 Pierce
                  6 A Ioane
                  7 Papalii
                  8 Sotutu

                  9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                  10 Black
                  11 Clarke
                  12 Faiane
                  13 R Ioane
                  14 M Telea
                  15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                  16 Parsons
                  17 Tu'inukuafe
                  18 Tu'ungafasi
                  19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                  20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                  21 Christie
                  22 Plummer
                  23 T Tele'a

                  With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                  Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                  Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                  taniwharugby
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                  #190

                  @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                  As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                    As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                    #191

                    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                    @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                    As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                    really?

                    Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                      @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                      As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                      really?

                      Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                      taniwharugby
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                      #192

                      @nzzp i just meant more reliant, didn't say they were shit or anything, plus an injury and it does get thin.

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                        #193

                        What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                          @KiwiMurph Maybe a bit small?

                          Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u might be on the fringe too?

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                            Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                            NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                              NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                              @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                              Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                              NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                              He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                                He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                                #197

                                @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                                  @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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                                    #199

                                    @Bovidae Yeah, started a lot of games for College Rifles.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                      Props

                                      Tu'inukuafe
                                      Hodgman
                                      N Mayhew
                                      O Tu'ungafasi
                                      Laulala
                                      Renata

                                      Hookers

                                      Parsons
                                      Eklund
                                      Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                      Locks

                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Pierce
                                      Goodhue
                                      Cowley-Tuioti
                                      Darry

                                      Loose forwards

                                      Gibson
                                      Hunt
                                      Papalii
                                      Robinson
                                      Sotutu
                                      A Ioane
                                      Riedlinger-Kapa

                                      Halfbacks

                                      Nock
                                      Christie
                                      Ruru

                                      1st Five Eighths

                                      Black
                                      Perofeta
                                      Plummer
                                      Heighton

                                      Midfield

                                      Faiane
                                      T Tele'a
                                      R Ioane
                                      TBC

                                      Outside Backs

                                      Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                      M Telea
                                      Narawa
                                      AJ Lam
                                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                      Sullivan

                                      Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                      That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                      Out:

                                      Lindenmuth
                                      Mafileo
                                      Carroll
                                      Lamborn
                                      Tucker
                                      Barrett
                                      Marchent
                                      Hyland
                                      Duffie
                                      Page

                                      In:

                                      N Mayhew
                                      Laulala
                                      Darry
                                      Hunt
                                      TBC (midfield)
                                      AJ Lam
                                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                      Sullivan

                                      Provincial breakdown:

                                      Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                      North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                      Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                      Counties - 2
                                      BOP - 3
                                      Ta$man - 3
                                      Canterbury - 1
                                      Taranaki - 2

                                      Match XXIII

                                      Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                      1 Hodgman
                                      2 Eklund
                                      3 Laulala
                                      4 Tuipulotu
                                      5 Pierce
                                      6 A Ioane
                                      7 Papalii
                                      8 Sotutu

                                      9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                      10 Black
                                      11 Clarke
                                      12 Faiane
                                      13 R Ioane
                                      14 M Telea
                                      15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                      16 Parsons
                                      17 Tu'inukuafe
                                      18 Tu'ungafasi
                                      19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                      20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                      21 Christie
                                      22 Plummer
                                      23 T Tele'a

                                      With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                      Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                      Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                      @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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                                      • N Nogusta

                                        @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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                                        @Nogusta said in Blues 2021:

                                        @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

                                        surely not! If so, well done on the good oil.

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                                        • N Nogusta

                                          @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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                                          @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

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