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  • TimT Tim

    Match XXIII

    Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

    1 Hodgman
    2 Eklund
    3 Laulala
    4 Tuipulotu
    5 Pierce
    6 A Ioane
    7 Papalii
    8 Sotutu

    9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
    10 Black
    11 Clarke
    12 Faiane
    13 R Ioane
    14 M Telea
    15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

    16 Parsons
    17 Tu'inukuafe
    18 Tu'ungafasi
    19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
    20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
    21 Christie
    22 Plummer
    23 T Tele'a

    With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

    Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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    @Tim said in Blues 2021:

    Match XIII

    Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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    • HoorooH Hooroo

      @Tim said in Blues 2021:

      Match XIII

      Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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      @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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        MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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          Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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            #189

            With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

            Props

            Tu'inukuafe
            Hodgman
            N Mayhew
            O Tu'ungafasi
            Laulala
            Renata

            Hookers

            Parsons
            Eklund
            Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

            Locks

            Tuipulotu
            Pierce
            Goodhue
            Cowley-Tuioti
            Darry

            Loose forwards

            Gibson
            Hunt
            Papalii
            Robinson
            Sotutu
            A Ioane
            Riedlinger-Kapa

            Halfbacks

            Nock
            Christie
            Ruru

            1st Five Eighths

            Black
            Perofeta
            Plummer
            Heighton

            Midfield

            Faiane
            T Tele'a
            R Ioane
            TBC

            Outside Backs

            Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
            M Telea
            Narawa
            AJ Lam
            Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
            Sullivan

            Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

            That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

            Out:

            Lindenmuth
            Mafileo
            Carroll
            Lamborn
            Tucker
            Barrett
            Marchent
            Hyland
            Duffie
            Page

            In:

            N Mayhew
            Laulala
            Darry
            Hunt
            TBC (midfield)
            AJ Lam
            Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
            Sullivan

            Provincial breakdown:

            Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
            North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
            Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
            Counties - 2
            BOP - 3
            Ta$man - 3
            Canterbury - 1
            Taranaki - 2

            Match XXIII

            Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

            1 Hodgman
            2 Eklund
            3 Laulala
            4 Tuipulotu
            5 Pierce
            6 A Ioane
            7 Papalii
            8 Sotutu

            9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
            10 Black
            11 Clarke
            12 Faiane
            13 R Ioane
            14 M Telea
            15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

            16 Parsons
            17 Tu'inukuafe
            18 Tu'ungafasi
            19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
            20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
            21 Christie
            22 Plummer
            23 T Tele'a

            With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

            Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

            Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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            • TimT Tim

              With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

              Props

              Tu'inukuafe
              Hodgman
              N Mayhew
              O Tu'ungafasi
              Laulala
              Renata

              Hookers

              Parsons
              Eklund
              Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

              Locks

              Tuipulotu
              Pierce
              Goodhue
              Cowley-Tuioti
              Darry

              Loose forwards

              Gibson
              Hunt
              Papalii
              Robinson
              Sotutu
              A Ioane
              Riedlinger-Kapa

              Halfbacks

              Nock
              Christie
              Ruru

              1st Five Eighths

              Black
              Perofeta
              Plummer
              Heighton

              Midfield

              Faiane
              T Tele'a
              R Ioane
              TBC

              Outside Backs

              Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
              M Telea
              Narawa
              AJ Lam
              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
              Sullivan

              Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

              That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

              Out:

              Lindenmuth
              Mafileo
              Carroll
              Lamborn
              Tucker
              Barrett
              Marchent
              Hyland
              Duffie
              Page

              In:

              N Mayhew
              Laulala
              Darry
              Hunt
              TBC (midfield)
              AJ Lam
              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
              Sullivan

              Provincial breakdown:

              Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
              North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
              Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
              Counties - 2
              BOP - 3
              Ta$man - 3
              Canterbury - 1
              Taranaki - 2

              Match XXIII

              Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

              1 Hodgman
              2 Eklund
              3 Laulala
              4 Tuipulotu
              5 Pierce
              6 A Ioane
              7 Papalii
              8 Sotutu

              9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
              10 Black
              11 Clarke
              12 Faiane
              13 R Ioane
              14 M Telea
              15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

              16 Parsons
              17 Tu'inukuafe
              18 Tu'ungafasi
              19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
              20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
              21 Christie
              22 Plummer
              23 T Tele'a

              With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

              Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

              Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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              @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

              As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                really?

                Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                  @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                  As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                  really?

                  Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                  #192

                  @nzzp i just meant more reliant, didn't say they were shit or anything, plus an injury and it does get thin.

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                    What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                      @KiwiMurph Maybe a bit small?

                      Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u might be on the fringe too?

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                        Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                        NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                          NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                          @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                          Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                          NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                          He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                            Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                            NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                            He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                            @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                              @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                              @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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                                @Bovidae Yeah, started a lot of games for College Rifles.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                  Props

                                  Tu'inukuafe
                                  Hodgman
                                  N Mayhew
                                  O Tu'ungafasi
                                  Laulala
                                  Renata

                                  Hookers

                                  Parsons
                                  Eklund
                                  Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                  Locks

                                  Tuipulotu
                                  Pierce
                                  Goodhue
                                  Cowley-Tuioti
                                  Darry

                                  Loose forwards

                                  Gibson
                                  Hunt
                                  Papalii
                                  Robinson
                                  Sotutu
                                  A Ioane
                                  Riedlinger-Kapa

                                  Halfbacks

                                  Nock
                                  Christie
                                  Ruru

                                  1st Five Eighths

                                  Black
                                  Perofeta
                                  Plummer
                                  Heighton

                                  Midfield

                                  Faiane
                                  T Tele'a
                                  R Ioane
                                  TBC

                                  Outside Backs

                                  Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                  M Telea
                                  Narawa
                                  AJ Lam
                                  Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                  Sullivan

                                  Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                  That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                  Out:

                                  Lindenmuth
                                  Mafileo
                                  Carroll
                                  Lamborn
                                  Tucker
                                  Barrett
                                  Marchent
                                  Hyland
                                  Duffie
                                  Page

                                  In:

                                  N Mayhew
                                  Laulala
                                  Darry
                                  Hunt
                                  TBC (midfield)
                                  AJ Lam
                                  Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                  Sullivan

                                  Provincial breakdown:

                                  Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                  North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                  Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                  Counties - 2
                                  BOP - 3
                                  Ta$man - 3
                                  Canterbury - 1
                                  Taranaki - 2

                                  Match XXIII

                                  Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                  1 Hodgman
                                  2 Eklund
                                  3 Laulala
                                  4 Tuipulotu
                                  5 Pierce
                                  6 A Ioane
                                  7 Papalii
                                  8 Sotutu

                                  9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                  10 Black
                                  11 Clarke
                                  12 Faiane
                                  13 R Ioane
                                  14 M Telea
                                  15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                  16 Parsons
                                  17 Tu'inukuafe
                                  18 Tu'ungafasi
                                  19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                  20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                  21 Christie
                                  22 Plummer
                                  23 T Tele'a

                                  With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                  Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                  Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                  @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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                                    @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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                                    @Nogusta said in Blues 2021:

                                    @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

                                    surely not! If so, well done on the good oil.

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                                    • N Nogusta

                                      @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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                                      @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

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                                        @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

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                                        @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                        @Nogusta Interesting. Wonder if his replacement would be Funaki or someone else?

                                        Kid looks good.

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                                          If Ruru has been released ... it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Canes picked him up with TJP gone and Booth injured.

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