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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    A sign of the times when a prop is taller than backs and a loose forward.

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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      @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

      @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

      If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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      • TimT Away
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        Tim
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        #183

        Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

        Props

        Tu'inukuafe
        Hodgman
        N Mayhew
        O Tu'ungafasi
        Laulala
        Renata

        Hookers

        Parsons
        Eklund
        Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

        Locks

        Tuipulotu
        Pierce
        Goodhue
        Cowley-Tuioti
        Darry

        Loose forwards

        Gibson
        Hunt
        Papalii
        Robinson
        Sotutu
        A Ioane
        Riedlinger-Kapa

        Halfbacks

        Nock
        Christie
        Ruru

        1st Five Eighths

        Black
        Perofeta
        Plummer
        Heighton

        Midfield

        Faiane
        T Tele'a
        R Ioane
        TBC

        Outside Backs

        Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
        M Telea
        Narawa
        AJ Lam
        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
        Sullivan

        Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

        38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

        Out:

        Lindenmuth
        Mafileo
        Carroll
        Lamborn
        Tucker
        Barrett
        Marchent
        Hyland
        Duffie
        Page

        In:

        N Mayhew
        Laulala
        Darry
        Hunt
        TBC (midfield)
        AJ Lam
        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
        Sullivan

        Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
        North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
        Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
        Counties - 2
        BOP - 3
        Ta$man - 3
        Canterbury - 1
        Taranaki - 2

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        • TimT Away
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          Tim
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          #184

          Match XXIII

          Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

          1 Hodgman
          2 Eklund
          3 Laulala
          4 Tuipulotu
          5 Pierce
          6 A Ioane
          7 Papalii
          8 Sotutu

          9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
          10 Black
          11 Clarke
          12 Faiane
          13 R Ioane
          14 M Telea
          15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

          16 Parsons
          17 Tu'inukuafe
          18 Tu'ungafasi
          19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
          20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
          21 Christie
          22 Plummer
          23 T Tele'a

          With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

          Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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          • TimT Tim

            Match XXIII

            Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

            1 Hodgman
            2 Eklund
            3 Laulala
            4 Tuipulotu
            5 Pierce
            6 A Ioane
            7 Papalii
            8 Sotutu

            9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
            10 Black
            11 Clarke
            12 Faiane
            13 R Ioane
            14 M Telea
            15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

            16 Parsons
            17 Tu'inukuafe
            18 Tu'ungafasi
            19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
            20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
            21 Christie
            22 Plummer
            23 T Tele'a

            With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

            Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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            @Tim said in Blues 2021:

            Match XIII

            Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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            • HoorooH Hooroo

              @Tim said in Blues 2021:

              Match XIII

              Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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              Tim
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              #186

              @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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              • TimT Away
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                Tim
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                #187

                MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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                • TimT Away
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                  #188

                  Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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                  • TimT Away
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                    Tim
                    wrote on last edited by Tim
                    #189

                    With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                    Props

                    Tu'inukuafe
                    Hodgman
                    N Mayhew
                    O Tu'ungafasi
                    Laulala
                    Renata

                    Hookers

                    Parsons
                    Eklund
                    Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                    Locks

                    Tuipulotu
                    Pierce
                    Goodhue
                    Cowley-Tuioti
                    Darry

                    Loose forwards

                    Gibson
                    Hunt
                    Papalii
                    Robinson
                    Sotutu
                    A Ioane
                    Riedlinger-Kapa

                    Halfbacks

                    Nock
                    Christie
                    Ruru

                    1st Five Eighths

                    Black
                    Perofeta
                    Plummer
                    Heighton

                    Midfield

                    Faiane
                    T Tele'a
                    R Ioane
                    TBC

                    Outside Backs

                    Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                    M Telea
                    Narawa
                    AJ Lam
                    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                    Sullivan

                    Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                    That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                    Out:

                    Lindenmuth
                    Mafileo
                    Carroll
                    Lamborn
                    Tucker
                    Barrett
                    Marchent
                    Hyland
                    Duffie
                    Page

                    In:

                    N Mayhew
                    Laulala
                    Darry
                    Hunt
                    TBC (midfield)
                    AJ Lam
                    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                    Sullivan

                    Provincial breakdown:

                    Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                    North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                    Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                    Counties - 2
                    BOP - 3
                    Ta$man - 3
                    Canterbury - 1
                    Taranaki - 2

                    Match XXIII

                    Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                    1 Hodgman
                    2 Eklund
                    3 Laulala
                    4 Tuipulotu
                    5 Pierce
                    6 A Ioane
                    7 Papalii
                    8 Sotutu

                    9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                    10 Black
                    11 Clarke
                    12 Faiane
                    13 R Ioane
                    14 M Telea
                    15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                    16 Parsons
                    17 Tu'inukuafe
                    18 Tu'ungafasi
                    19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                    20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                    21 Christie
                    22 Plummer
                    23 T Tele'a

                    With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                    Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                    Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                      Props

                      Tu'inukuafe
                      Hodgman
                      N Mayhew
                      O Tu'ungafasi
                      Laulala
                      Renata

                      Hookers

                      Parsons
                      Eklund
                      Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                      Locks

                      Tuipulotu
                      Pierce
                      Goodhue
                      Cowley-Tuioti
                      Darry

                      Loose forwards

                      Gibson
                      Hunt
                      Papalii
                      Robinson
                      Sotutu
                      A Ioane
                      Riedlinger-Kapa

                      Halfbacks

                      Nock
                      Christie
                      Ruru

                      1st Five Eighths

                      Black
                      Perofeta
                      Plummer
                      Heighton

                      Midfield

                      Faiane
                      T Tele'a
                      R Ioane
                      TBC

                      Outside Backs

                      Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                      M Telea
                      Narawa
                      AJ Lam
                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                      Sullivan

                      Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                      That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                      Out:

                      Lindenmuth
                      Mafileo
                      Carroll
                      Lamborn
                      Tucker
                      Barrett
                      Marchent
                      Hyland
                      Duffie
                      Page

                      In:

                      N Mayhew
                      Laulala
                      Darry
                      Hunt
                      TBC (midfield)
                      AJ Lam
                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                      Sullivan

                      Provincial breakdown:

                      Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                      North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                      Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                      Counties - 2
                      BOP - 3
                      Ta$man - 3
                      Canterbury - 1
                      Taranaki - 2

                      Match XXIII

                      Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                      1 Hodgman
                      2 Eklund
                      3 Laulala
                      4 Tuipulotu
                      5 Pierce
                      6 A Ioane
                      7 Papalii
                      8 Sotutu

                      9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                      10 Black
                      11 Clarke
                      12 Faiane
                      13 R Ioane
                      14 M Telea
                      15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                      16 Parsons
                      17 Tu'inukuafe
                      18 Tu'ungafasi
                      19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                      20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                      21 Christie
                      22 Plummer
                      23 T Tele'a

                      With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                      Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                      Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                      @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                      As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                        As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                        @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                        @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                        As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                        really?

                        Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                          @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                          As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                          really?

                          Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                          #192

                          @nzzp i just meant more reliant, didn't say they were shit or anything, plus an injury and it does get thin.

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                            What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                              @KiwiMurph Maybe a bit small?

                              Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u might be on the fringe too?

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                                Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                  NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                                  @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                  Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                  NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                                  He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                    Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                    NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                                    He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                                    @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                                      @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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                                        #199

                                        @Bovidae Yeah, started a lot of games for College Rifles.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                          Props

                                          Tu'inukuafe
                                          Hodgman
                                          N Mayhew
                                          O Tu'ungafasi
                                          Laulala
                                          Renata

                                          Hookers

                                          Parsons
                                          Eklund
                                          Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                          Locks

                                          Tuipulotu
                                          Pierce
                                          Goodhue
                                          Cowley-Tuioti
                                          Darry

                                          Loose forwards

                                          Gibson
                                          Hunt
                                          Papalii
                                          Robinson
                                          Sotutu
                                          A Ioane
                                          Riedlinger-Kapa

                                          Halfbacks

                                          Nock
                                          Christie
                                          Ruru

                                          1st Five Eighths

                                          Black
                                          Perofeta
                                          Plummer
                                          Heighton

                                          Midfield

                                          Faiane
                                          T Tele'a
                                          R Ioane
                                          TBC

                                          Outside Backs

                                          Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                          M Telea
                                          Narawa
                                          AJ Lam
                                          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                          Sullivan

                                          Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                          That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                          Out:

                                          Lindenmuth
                                          Mafileo
                                          Carroll
                                          Lamborn
                                          Tucker
                                          Barrett
                                          Marchent
                                          Hyland
                                          Duffie
                                          Page

                                          In:

                                          N Mayhew
                                          Laulala
                                          Darry
                                          Hunt
                                          TBC (midfield)
                                          AJ Lam
                                          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                          Sullivan

                                          Provincial breakdown:

                                          Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                          North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                          Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                          Counties - 2
                                          BOP - 3
                                          Ta$man - 3
                                          Canterbury - 1
                                          Taranaki - 2

                                          Match XXIII

                                          Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                          1 Hodgman
                                          2 Eklund
                                          3 Laulala
                                          4 Tuipulotu
                                          5 Pierce
                                          6 A Ioane
                                          7 Papalii
                                          8 Sotutu

                                          9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                          10 Black
                                          11 Clarke
                                          12 Faiane
                                          13 R Ioane
                                          14 M Telea
                                          15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                          16 Parsons
                                          17 Tu'inukuafe
                                          18 Tu'ungafasi
                                          19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                          20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                          21 Christie
                                          22 Plummer
                                          23 T Tele'a

                                          With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                          Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                          Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                          @Tim Not 100% sure but I heard a whisper that Ruru has been released.

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