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  • DiceD Offline
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    #173

    With two FB spots sorted, we probably need one more FB option. Narawa? Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens?

    Josh Moorby, Caleb Makene and Josh McKay could be other options to bring in.

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    • DiceD Dice

      With two FB spots sorted, we probably need one more FB option. Narawa? Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens?

      Josh Moorby, Caleb Makene and Josh McKay could be other options to bring in.

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      African Monkey
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      #174

      @Dice I always thought McKay would be worth a punt. Doesn't seem to be any rumours of us getting any outside backs?

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      • A African Monkey

        @Dice I always thought McKay would be worth a punt. Doesn't seem to be any rumours of us getting any outside backs?

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        #175

        @African-Monkey AJ Lam and Jacob Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens have been reported on here as signed. Perofeta, Sullivan and Narawa should cover fullback pretty effectively. One or two Midfield backups for Faiane, Ioane and Tele'a will be interesting with no obvious standout options in the region now that Tua is unavailable.

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        • S Steven Harris

          Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

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          #176

          @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2021:

          Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

          Good to see another Napier boy getting a SR contract.

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            #177

            Funny how since Blues have ditched Hanks they have suddenly started making signings that make sense.

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              #178

              https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                #179

                @Stargazer that's bloody good news. They are going well as a unit.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                  #180

                  @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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                  • BovidaeB Offline
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                    #181

                    A sign of the times when a prop is taller than backs and a loose forward.

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                    • NepiaN Nepia

                      @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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                      Hooroo
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                      #182

                      @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

                      @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

                      If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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                      • TimT Away
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                        Tim
                        wrote on last edited by Tim
                        #183

                        Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

                        Props

                        Tu'inukuafe
                        Hodgman
                        N Mayhew
                        O Tu'ungafasi
                        Laulala
                        Renata

                        Hookers

                        Parsons
                        Eklund
                        Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                        Locks

                        Tuipulotu
                        Pierce
                        Goodhue
                        Cowley-Tuioti
                        Darry

                        Loose forwards

                        Gibson
                        Hunt
                        Papalii
                        Robinson
                        Sotutu
                        A Ioane
                        Riedlinger-Kapa

                        Halfbacks

                        Nock
                        Christie
                        Ruru

                        1st Five Eighths

                        Black
                        Perofeta
                        Plummer
                        Heighton

                        Midfield

                        Faiane
                        T Tele'a
                        R Ioane
                        TBC

                        Outside Backs

                        Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                        M Telea
                        Narawa
                        AJ Lam
                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                        Sullivan

                        Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

                        38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                        Out:

                        Lindenmuth
                        Mafileo
                        Carroll
                        Lamborn
                        Tucker
                        Barrett
                        Marchent
                        Hyland
                        Duffie
                        Page

                        In:

                        N Mayhew
                        Laulala
                        Darry
                        Hunt
                        TBC (midfield)
                        AJ Lam
                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                        Sullivan

                        Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                        North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                        Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                        Counties - 2
                        BOP - 3
                        Ta$man - 3
                        Canterbury - 1
                        Taranaki - 2

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                        • TimT Away
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                          Tim
                          wrote on last edited by Tim
                          #184

                          Match XXIII

                          Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                          1 Hodgman
                          2 Eklund
                          3 Laulala
                          4 Tuipulotu
                          5 Pierce
                          6 A Ioane
                          7 Papalii
                          8 Sotutu

                          9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                          10 Black
                          11 Clarke
                          12 Faiane
                          13 R Ioane
                          14 M Telea
                          15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                          16 Parsons
                          17 Tu'inukuafe
                          18 Tu'ungafasi
                          19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                          20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                          21 Christie
                          22 Plummer
                          23 T Tele'a

                          With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                          Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                            Match XXIII

                            Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                            1 Hodgman
                            2 Eklund
                            3 Laulala
                            4 Tuipulotu
                            5 Pierce
                            6 A Ioane
                            7 Papalii
                            8 Sotutu

                            9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                            10 Black
                            11 Clarke
                            12 Faiane
                            13 R Ioane
                            14 M Telea
                            15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                            16 Parsons
                            17 Tu'inukuafe
                            18 Tu'ungafasi
                            19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                            20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                            21 Christie
                            22 Plummer
                            23 T Tele'a

                            With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                            Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                            Hooroo
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #185

                            @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                            Match XIII

                            Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                            • HoorooH Hooroo

                              @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                              Match XIII

                              Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                              Tim
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #186

                              @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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                              • TimT Away
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                                Tim
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #187

                                MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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                                • TimT Away
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                                  Tim
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #188

                                  Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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                                  • TimT Away
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                                    Tim
                                    wrote on last edited by Tim
                                    #189

                                    With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                    Props

                                    Tu'inukuafe
                                    Hodgman
                                    N Mayhew
                                    O Tu'ungafasi
                                    Laulala
                                    Renata

                                    Hookers

                                    Parsons
                                    Eklund
                                    Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                    Locks

                                    Tuipulotu
                                    Pierce
                                    Goodhue
                                    Cowley-Tuioti
                                    Darry

                                    Loose forwards

                                    Gibson
                                    Hunt
                                    Papalii
                                    Robinson
                                    Sotutu
                                    A Ioane
                                    Riedlinger-Kapa

                                    Halfbacks

                                    Nock
                                    Christie
                                    Ruru

                                    1st Five Eighths

                                    Black
                                    Perofeta
                                    Plummer
                                    Heighton

                                    Midfield

                                    Faiane
                                    T Tele'a
                                    R Ioane
                                    TBC

                                    Outside Backs

                                    Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                    M Telea
                                    Narawa
                                    AJ Lam
                                    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                    Sullivan

                                    Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                    That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                    Out:

                                    Lindenmuth
                                    Mafileo
                                    Carroll
                                    Lamborn
                                    Tucker
                                    Barrett
                                    Marchent
                                    Hyland
                                    Duffie
                                    Page

                                    In:

                                    N Mayhew
                                    Laulala
                                    Darry
                                    Hunt
                                    TBC (midfield)
                                    AJ Lam
                                    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                    Sullivan

                                    Provincial breakdown:

                                    Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                    North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                    Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                    Counties - 2
                                    BOP - 3
                                    Ta$man - 3
                                    Canterbury - 1
                                    Taranaki - 2

                                    Match XXIII

                                    Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                    1 Hodgman
                                    2 Eklund
                                    3 Laulala
                                    4 Tuipulotu
                                    5 Pierce
                                    6 A Ioane
                                    7 Papalii
                                    8 Sotutu

                                    9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                    10 Black
                                    11 Clarke
                                    12 Faiane
                                    13 R Ioane
                                    14 M Telea
                                    15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                    16 Parsons
                                    17 Tu'inukuafe
                                    18 Tu'ungafasi
                                    19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                    20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                    21 Christie
                                    22 Plummer
                                    23 T Tele'a

                                    With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                    Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                    Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                      Props

                                      Tu'inukuafe
                                      Hodgman
                                      N Mayhew
                                      O Tu'ungafasi
                                      Laulala
                                      Renata

                                      Hookers

                                      Parsons
                                      Eklund
                                      Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                      Locks

                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Pierce
                                      Goodhue
                                      Cowley-Tuioti
                                      Darry

                                      Loose forwards

                                      Gibson
                                      Hunt
                                      Papalii
                                      Robinson
                                      Sotutu
                                      A Ioane
                                      Riedlinger-Kapa

                                      Halfbacks

                                      Nock
                                      Christie
                                      Ruru

                                      1st Five Eighths

                                      Black
                                      Perofeta
                                      Plummer
                                      Heighton

                                      Midfield

                                      Faiane
                                      T Tele'a
                                      R Ioane
                                      TBC

                                      Outside Backs

                                      Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                      M Telea
                                      Narawa
                                      AJ Lam
                                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                      Sullivan

                                      Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                      That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                      Out:

                                      Lindenmuth
                                      Mafileo
                                      Carroll
                                      Lamborn
                                      Tucker
                                      Barrett
                                      Marchent
                                      Hyland
                                      Duffie
                                      Page

                                      In:

                                      N Mayhew
                                      Laulala
                                      Darry
                                      Hunt
                                      TBC (midfield)
                                      AJ Lam
                                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                      Sullivan

                                      Provincial breakdown:

                                      Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                      North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                      Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                      Counties - 2
                                      BOP - 3
                                      Ta$man - 3
                                      Canterbury - 1
                                      Taranaki - 2

                                      Match XXIII

                                      Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                      1 Hodgman
                                      2 Eklund
                                      3 Laulala
                                      4 Tuipulotu
                                      5 Pierce
                                      6 A Ioane
                                      7 Papalii
                                      8 Sotutu

                                      9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                      10 Black
                                      11 Clarke
                                      12 Faiane
                                      13 R Ioane
                                      14 M Telea
                                      15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                      16 Parsons
                                      17 Tu'inukuafe
                                      18 Tu'ungafasi
                                      19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                      20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                      21 Christie
                                      22 Plummer
                                      23 T Tele'a

                                      With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                      Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                      Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                      @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                      As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                        As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                        @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                        As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                                        really?

                                        Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                          @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                          As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                                          really?

                                          Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                                          #192

                                          @nzzp i just meant more reliant, didn't say they were shit or anything, plus an injury and it does get thin.

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