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  • A African Monkey

    @Steven-Harris Could be the starting fullback next season.

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    @African-Monkey I am thinking that as well, got the best kicking game of any of the other options not to mention as seen last night , he really can knock them over from a fair way out if required to kick for goal ..

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    • S Steven Harris

      @African-Monkey I am thinking that as well, got the best kicking game of any of the other options not to mention as seen last night , he really can knock them over from a fair way out if required to kick for goal ..

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      @Steven-Harris Yup, and we also don't really have many options there with Perofeta being the only other option I can think of and he's also very injury prone. As you said, he has a huge kick and seems good under the high ball.

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @Tim that is some loose forward trio Edit: group.

        Amazing how with decent governance, decent administration and decent coaching players suddenly are interested in playing for Auckland!

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        @nzzp said in Blues 2021:

        @Tim that is some loose forward trio Edit: group.

        Amazing how with decent governance, decent administration and decent coaching players suddenly are interested in playing for Auckland!

        It's way more a case of decent results and chance at results. Players these days want titles or finals on their Cvs for value.

        All those things can add to results but then you can also have all of those and if you just can't quite get results it can stall or you can be undesirable. See the Chiefs. Governance and admin still good, one the world's best coaches but it hasn't gelled and will now take a while before they are back to having players knocking the door down.

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          With two FB spots sorted, we probably need one more FB option. Narawa? Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens?

          Josh Moorby, Caleb Makene and Josh McKay could be other options to bring in.

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            With two FB spots sorted, we probably need one more FB option. Narawa? Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens?

            Josh Moorby, Caleb Makene and Josh McKay could be other options to bring in.

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            @Dice I always thought McKay would be worth a punt. Doesn't seem to be any rumours of us getting any outside backs?

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            • A African Monkey

              @Dice I always thought McKay would be worth a punt. Doesn't seem to be any rumours of us getting any outside backs?

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              @African-Monkey AJ Lam and Jacob Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens have been reported on here as signed. Perofeta, Sullivan and Narawa should cover fullback pretty effectively. One or two Midfield backups for Faiane, Ioane and Tele'a will be interesting with no obvious standout options in the region now that Tua is unavailable.

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              • S Steven Harris

                Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

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                @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2021:

                Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

                Good to see another Napier boy getting a SR contract.

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                  Funny how since Blues have ditched Hanks they have suddenly started making signings that make sense.

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                    https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                      https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                      @Stargazer that's bloody good news. They are going well as a unit.

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                        https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                        @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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                          A sign of the times when a prop is taller than backs and a loose forward.

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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                            @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

                            @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

                            If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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                              #183

                              Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

                              Props

                              Tu'inukuafe
                              Hodgman
                              N Mayhew
                              O Tu'ungafasi
                              Laulala
                              Renata

                              Hookers

                              Parsons
                              Eklund
                              Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                              Locks

                              Tuipulotu
                              Pierce
                              Goodhue
                              Cowley-Tuioti
                              Darry

                              Loose forwards

                              Gibson
                              Hunt
                              Papalii
                              Robinson
                              Sotutu
                              A Ioane
                              Riedlinger-Kapa

                              Halfbacks

                              Nock
                              Christie
                              Ruru

                              1st Five Eighths

                              Black
                              Perofeta
                              Plummer
                              Heighton

                              Midfield

                              Faiane
                              T Tele'a
                              R Ioane
                              TBC

                              Outside Backs

                              Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                              M Telea
                              Narawa
                              AJ Lam
                              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                              Sullivan

                              Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

                              38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                              Out:

                              Lindenmuth
                              Mafileo
                              Carroll
                              Lamborn
                              Tucker
                              Barrett
                              Marchent
                              Hyland
                              Duffie
                              Page

                              In:

                              N Mayhew
                              Laulala
                              Darry
                              Hunt
                              TBC (midfield)
                              AJ Lam
                              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                              Sullivan

                              Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                              North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                              Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                              Counties - 2
                              BOP - 3
                              Ta$man - 3
                              Canterbury - 1
                              Taranaki - 2

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                                #184

                                Match XXIII

                                Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                1 Hodgman
                                2 Eklund
                                3 Laulala
                                4 Tuipulotu
                                5 Pierce
                                6 A Ioane
                                7 Papalii
                                8 Sotutu

                                9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                10 Black
                                11 Clarke
                                12 Faiane
                                13 R Ioane
                                14 M Telea
                                15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                16 Parsons
                                17 Tu'inukuafe
                                18 Tu'ungafasi
                                19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                21 Christie
                                22 Plummer
                                23 T Tele'a

                                With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                                Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                  Match XXIII

                                  Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                  1 Hodgman
                                  2 Eklund
                                  3 Laulala
                                  4 Tuipulotu
                                  5 Pierce
                                  6 A Ioane
                                  7 Papalii
                                  8 Sotutu

                                  9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                  10 Black
                                  11 Clarke
                                  12 Faiane
                                  13 R Ioane
                                  14 M Telea
                                  15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                  16 Parsons
                                  17 Tu'inukuafe
                                  18 Tu'ungafasi
                                  19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                  20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                  21 Christie
                                  22 Plummer
                                  23 T Tele'a

                                  With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                                  Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                  @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                  Match XIII

                                  Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                                    @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                    Match XIII

                                    Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                                    @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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                                      MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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                                        Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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                                          #189

                                          With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                          Props

                                          Tu'inukuafe
                                          Hodgman
                                          N Mayhew
                                          O Tu'ungafasi
                                          Laulala
                                          Renata

                                          Hookers

                                          Parsons
                                          Eklund
                                          Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                          Locks

                                          Tuipulotu
                                          Pierce
                                          Goodhue
                                          Cowley-Tuioti
                                          Darry

                                          Loose forwards

                                          Gibson
                                          Hunt
                                          Papalii
                                          Robinson
                                          Sotutu
                                          A Ioane
                                          Riedlinger-Kapa

                                          Halfbacks

                                          Nock
                                          Christie
                                          Ruru

                                          1st Five Eighths

                                          Black
                                          Perofeta
                                          Plummer
                                          Heighton

                                          Midfield

                                          Faiane
                                          T Tele'a
                                          R Ioane
                                          TBC

                                          Outside Backs

                                          Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                          M Telea
                                          Narawa
                                          AJ Lam
                                          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                          Sullivan

                                          Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                          That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                          Out:

                                          Lindenmuth
                                          Mafileo
                                          Carroll
                                          Lamborn
                                          Tucker
                                          Barrett
                                          Marchent
                                          Hyland
                                          Duffie
                                          Page

                                          In:

                                          N Mayhew
                                          Laulala
                                          Darry
                                          Hunt
                                          TBC (midfield)
                                          AJ Lam
                                          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                          Sullivan

                                          Provincial breakdown:

                                          Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                          North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                          Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                          Counties - 2
                                          BOP - 3
                                          Ta$man - 3
                                          Canterbury - 1
                                          Taranaki - 2

                                          Match XXIII

                                          Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                          1 Hodgman
                                          2 Eklund
                                          3 Laulala
                                          4 Tuipulotu
                                          5 Pierce
                                          6 A Ioane
                                          7 Papalii
                                          8 Sotutu

                                          9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                          10 Black
                                          11 Clarke
                                          12 Faiane
                                          13 R Ioane
                                          14 M Telea
                                          15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                          16 Parsons
                                          17 Tu'inukuafe
                                          18 Tu'ungafasi
                                          19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                          20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                          21 Christie
                                          22 Plummer
                                          23 T Tele'a

                                          With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                          Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                          Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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