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  • nzzpN nzzp

    @Tim that is some loose forward trio Edit: group.

    Amazing how with decent governance, decent administration and decent coaching players suddenly are interested in playing for Auckland!

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    @nzzp said in Blues 2021:

    @Tim that is some loose forward trio Edit: group.

    Amazing how with decent governance, decent administration and decent coaching players suddenly are interested in playing for Auckland!

    It's way more a case of decent results and chance at results. Players these days want titles or finals on their Cvs for value.

    All those things can add to results but then you can also have all of those and if you just can't quite get results it can stall or you can be undesirable. See the Chiefs. Governance and admin still good, one the world's best coaches but it hasn't gelled and will now take a while before they are back to having players knocking the door down.

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      With two FB spots sorted, we probably need one more FB option. Narawa? Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens?

      Josh Moorby, Caleb Makene and Josh McKay could be other options to bring in.

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      • DiceD Dice

        With two FB spots sorted, we probably need one more FB option. Narawa? Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens?

        Josh Moorby, Caleb Makene and Josh McKay could be other options to bring in.

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        @Dice I always thought McKay would be worth a punt. Doesn't seem to be any rumours of us getting any outside backs?

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          @Dice I always thought McKay would be worth a punt. Doesn't seem to be any rumours of us getting any outside backs?

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          #175

          @African-Monkey AJ Lam and Jacob Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens have been reported on here as signed. Perofeta, Sullivan and Narawa should cover fullback pretty effectively. One or two Midfield backups for Faiane, Ioane and Tele'a will be interesting with no obvious standout options in the region now that Tua is unavailable.

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          • S Steven Harris

            Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

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            @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2021:

            Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

            Good to see another Napier boy getting a SR contract.

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              #177

              Funny how since Blues have ditched Hanks they have suddenly started making signings that make sense.

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                https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                  https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                  @Stargazer that's bloody good news. They are going well as a unit.

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                    https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                    #180

                    @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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                      #181

                      A sign of the times when a prop is taller than backs and a loose forward.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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                        @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

                        @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

                        If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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                          #183

                          Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

                          Props

                          Tu'inukuafe
                          Hodgman
                          N Mayhew
                          O Tu'ungafasi
                          Laulala
                          Renata

                          Hookers

                          Parsons
                          Eklund
                          Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                          Locks

                          Tuipulotu
                          Pierce
                          Goodhue
                          Cowley-Tuioti
                          Darry

                          Loose forwards

                          Gibson
                          Hunt
                          Papalii
                          Robinson
                          Sotutu
                          A Ioane
                          Riedlinger-Kapa

                          Halfbacks

                          Nock
                          Christie
                          Ruru

                          1st Five Eighths

                          Black
                          Perofeta
                          Plummer
                          Heighton

                          Midfield

                          Faiane
                          T Tele'a
                          R Ioane
                          TBC

                          Outside Backs

                          Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                          M Telea
                          Narawa
                          AJ Lam
                          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                          Sullivan

                          Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

                          38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                          Out:

                          Lindenmuth
                          Mafileo
                          Carroll
                          Lamborn
                          Tucker
                          Barrett
                          Marchent
                          Hyland
                          Duffie
                          Page

                          In:

                          N Mayhew
                          Laulala
                          Darry
                          Hunt
                          TBC (midfield)
                          AJ Lam
                          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                          Sullivan

                          Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                          North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                          Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                          Counties - 2
                          BOP - 3
                          Ta$man - 3
                          Canterbury - 1
                          Taranaki - 2

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                            #184

                            Match XXIII

                            Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                            1 Hodgman
                            2 Eklund
                            3 Laulala
                            4 Tuipulotu
                            5 Pierce
                            6 A Ioane
                            7 Papalii
                            8 Sotutu

                            9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                            10 Black
                            11 Clarke
                            12 Faiane
                            13 R Ioane
                            14 M Telea
                            15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                            16 Parsons
                            17 Tu'inukuafe
                            18 Tu'ungafasi
                            19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                            20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                            21 Christie
                            22 Plummer
                            23 T Tele'a

                            With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                            Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                              Match XXIII

                              Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                              1 Hodgman
                              2 Eklund
                              3 Laulala
                              4 Tuipulotu
                              5 Pierce
                              6 A Ioane
                              7 Papalii
                              8 Sotutu

                              9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                              10 Black
                              11 Clarke
                              12 Faiane
                              13 R Ioane
                              14 M Telea
                              15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                              16 Parsons
                              17 Tu'inukuafe
                              18 Tu'ungafasi
                              19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                              20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                              21 Christie
                              22 Plummer
                              23 T Tele'a

                              With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                              Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                              @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                              Match XIII

                              Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                              • HoorooH Hooroo

                                @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                Match XIII

                                Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                                @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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                                  MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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                                    Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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                                      #189

                                      With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                      Props

                                      Tu'inukuafe
                                      Hodgman
                                      N Mayhew
                                      O Tu'ungafasi
                                      Laulala
                                      Renata

                                      Hookers

                                      Parsons
                                      Eklund
                                      Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                      Locks

                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Pierce
                                      Goodhue
                                      Cowley-Tuioti
                                      Darry

                                      Loose forwards

                                      Gibson
                                      Hunt
                                      Papalii
                                      Robinson
                                      Sotutu
                                      A Ioane
                                      Riedlinger-Kapa

                                      Halfbacks

                                      Nock
                                      Christie
                                      Ruru

                                      1st Five Eighths

                                      Black
                                      Perofeta
                                      Plummer
                                      Heighton

                                      Midfield

                                      Faiane
                                      T Tele'a
                                      R Ioane
                                      TBC

                                      Outside Backs

                                      Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                      M Telea
                                      Narawa
                                      AJ Lam
                                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                      Sullivan

                                      Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                      That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                      Out:

                                      Lindenmuth
                                      Mafileo
                                      Carroll
                                      Lamborn
                                      Tucker
                                      Barrett
                                      Marchent
                                      Hyland
                                      Duffie
                                      Page

                                      In:

                                      N Mayhew
                                      Laulala
                                      Darry
                                      Hunt
                                      TBC (midfield)
                                      AJ Lam
                                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                      Sullivan

                                      Provincial breakdown:

                                      Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                      North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                      Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                      Counties - 2
                                      BOP - 3
                                      Ta$man - 3
                                      Canterbury - 1
                                      Taranaki - 2

                                      Match XXIII

                                      Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                      1 Hodgman
                                      2 Eklund
                                      3 Laulala
                                      4 Tuipulotu
                                      5 Pierce
                                      6 A Ioane
                                      7 Papalii
                                      8 Sotutu

                                      9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                      10 Black
                                      11 Clarke
                                      12 Faiane
                                      13 R Ioane
                                      14 M Telea
                                      15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                      16 Parsons
                                      17 Tu'inukuafe
                                      18 Tu'ungafasi
                                      19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                      20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                      21 Christie
                                      22 Plummer
                                      23 T Tele'a

                                      With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                      Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                      Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                        Props

                                        Tu'inukuafe
                                        Hodgman
                                        N Mayhew
                                        O Tu'ungafasi
                                        Laulala
                                        Renata

                                        Hookers

                                        Parsons
                                        Eklund
                                        Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                        Locks

                                        Tuipulotu
                                        Pierce
                                        Goodhue
                                        Cowley-Tuioti
                                        Darry

                                        Loose forwards

                                        Gibson
                                        Hunt
                                        Papalii
                                        Robinson
                                        Sotutu
                                        A Ioane
                                        Riedlinger-Kapa

                                        Halfbacks

                                        Nock
                                        Christie
                                        Ruru

                                        1st Five Eighths

                                        Black
                                        Perofeta
                                        Plummer
                                        Heighton

                                        Midfield

                                        Faiane
                                        T Tele'a
                                        R Ioane
                                        TBC

                                        Outside Backs

                                        Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                        M Telea
                                        Narawa
                                        AJ Lam
                                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                        Sullivan

                                        Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                        That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                        Out:

                                        Lindenmuth
                                        Mafileo
                                        Carroll
                                        Lamborn
                                        Tucker
                                        Barrett
                                        Marchent
                                        Hyland
                                        Duffie
                                        Page

                                        In:

                                        N Mayhew
                                        Laulala
                                        Darry
                                        Hunt
                                        TBC (midfield)
                                        AJ Lam
                                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                        Sullivan

                                        Provincial breakdown:

                                        Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                        North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                        Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                        Counties - 2
                                        BOP - 3
                                        Ta$man - 3
                                        Canterbury - 1
                                        Taranaki - 2

                                        Match XXIII

                                        Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                        1 Hodgman
                                        2 Eklund
                                        3 Laulala
                                        4 Tuipulotu
                                        5 Pierce
                                        6 A Ioane
                                        7 Papalii
                                        8 Sotutu

                                        9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                        10 Black
                                        11 Clarke
                                        12 Faiane
                                        13 R Ioane
                                        14 M Telea
                                        15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                        16 Parsons
                                        17 Tu'inukuafe
                                        18 Tu'ungafasi
                                        19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                        20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                        21 Christie
                                        22 Plummer
                                        23 T Tele'a

                                        With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                        Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                        Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                        @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                        As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                          As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                          @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                          As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                                          really?

                                          Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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