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  • DiceD Dice

    With two FB spots sorted, we probably need one more FB option. Narawa? Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens?

    Josh Moorby, Caleb Makene and Josh McKay could be other options to bring in.

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    African Monkey
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    @Dice I always thought McKay would be worth a punt. Doesn't seem to be any rumours of us getting any outside backs?

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    • A African Monkey

      @Dice I always thought McKay would be worth a punt. Doesn't seem to be any rumours of us getting any outside backs?

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      #175

      @African-Monkey AJ Lam and Jacob Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens have been reported on here as signed. Perofeta, Sullivan and Narawa should cover fullback pretty effectively. One or two Midfield backups for Faiane, Ioane and Tele'a will be interesting with no obvious standout options in the region now that Tua is unavailable.

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      • S Steven Harris

        Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

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        #176

        @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2021:

        Had it confirmed to me last night that Zarn Sullivan has been signed by the Blues ,.

        Good to see another Napier boy getting a SR contract.

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          #177

          Funny how since Blues have ditched Hanks they have suddenly started making signings that make sense.

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            https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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              #179

              @Stargazer that's bloody good news. They are going well as a unit.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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                #180

                @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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                  #181

                  A sign of the times when a prop is taller than backs and a loose forward.

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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                    @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

                    @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

                    If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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                    • TimT Away
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                      Tim
                      wrote on last edited by Tim
                      #183

                      Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

                      Props

                      Tu'inukuafe
                      Hodgman
                      N Mayhew
                      O Tu'ungafasi
                      Laulala
                      Renata

                      Hookers

                      Parsons
                      Eklund
                      Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                      Locks

                      Tuipulotu
                      Pierce
                      Goodhue
                      Cowley-Tuioti
                      Darry

                      Loose forwards

                      Gibson
                      Hunt
                      Papalii
                      Robinson
                      Sotutu
                      A Ioane
                      Riedlinger-Kapa

                      Halfbacks

                      Nock
                      Christie
                      Ruru

                      1st Five Eighths

                      Black
                      Perofeta
                      Plummer
                      Heighton

                      Midfield

                      Faiane
                      T Tele'a
                      R Ioane
                      TBC

                      Outside Backs

                      Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                      M Telea
                      Narawa
                      AJ Lam
                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                      Sullivan

                      Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

                      38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                      Out:

                      Lindenmuth
                      Mafileo
                      Carroll
                      Lamborn
                      Tucker
                      Barrett
                      Marchent
                      Hyland
                      Duffie
                      Page

                      In:

                      N Mayhew
                      Laulala
                      Darry
                      Hunt
                      TBC (midfield)
                      AJ Lam
                      Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                      Sullivan

                      Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                      North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                      Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                      Counties - 2
                      BOP - 3
                      Ta$man - 3
                      Canterbury - 1
                      Taranaki - 2

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                      • TimT Away
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                        Tim
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                        #184

                        Match XXIII

                        Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                        1 Hodgman
                        2 Eklund
                        3 Laulala
                        4 Tuipulotu
                        5 Pierce
                        6 A Ioane
                        7 Papalii
                        8 Sotutu

                        9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                        10 Black
                        11 Clarke
                        12 Faiane
                        13 R Ioane
                        14 M Telea
                        15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                        16 Parsons
                        17 Tu'inukuafe
                        18 Tu'ungafasi
                        19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                        20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                        21 Christie
                        22 Plummer
                        23 T Tele'a

                        With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                        Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Match XXIII

                          Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                          1 Hodgman
                          2 Eklund
                          3 Laulala
                          4 Tuipulotu
                          5 Pierce
                          6 A Ioane
                          7 Papalii
                          8 Sotutu

                          9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                          10 Black
                          11 Clarke
                          12 Faiane
                          13 R Ioane
                          14 M Telea
                          15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                          16 Parsons
                          17 Tu'inukuafe
                          18 Tu'ungafasi
                          19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                          20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                          21 Christie
                          22 Plummer
                          23 T Tele'a

                          With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                          Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                          @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                          Match XIII

                          Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                          • HoorooH Hooroo

                            @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                            Match XIII

                            Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                            Tim
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                            #186

                            @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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                            • TimT Away
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                              Tim
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                              MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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                              • TimT Away
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                                Tim
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                                #188

                                Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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                                  Tim
                                  wrote on last edited by Tim
                                  #189

                                  With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                  Props

                                  Tu'inukuafe
                                  Hodgman
                                  N Mayhew
                                  O Tu'ungafasi
                                  Laulala
                                  Renata

                                  Hookers

                                  Parsons
                                  Eklund
                                  Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                  Locks

                                  Tuipulotu
                                  Pierce
                                  Goodhue
                                  Cowley-Tuioti
                                  Darry

                                  Loose forwards

                                  Gibson
                                  Hunt
                                  Papalii
                                  Robinson
                                  Sotutu
                                  A Ioane
                                  Riedlinger-Kapa

                                  Halfbacks

                                  Nock
                                  Christie
                                  Ruru

                                  1st Five Eighths

                                  Black
                                  Perofeta
                                  Plummer
                                  Heighton

                                  Midfield

                                  Faiane
                                  T Tele'a
                                  R Ioane
                                  TBC

                                  Outside Backs

                                  Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                  M Telea
                                  Narawa
                                  AJ Lam
                                  Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                  Sullivan

                                  Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                  That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                  Out:

                                  Lindenmuth
                                  Mafileo
                                  Carroll
                                  Lamborn
                                  Tucker
                                  Barrett
                                  Marchent
                                  Hyland
                                  Duffie
                                  Page

                                  In:

                                  N Mayhew
                                  Laulala
                                  Darry
                                  Hunt
                                  TBC (midfield)
                                  AJ Lam
                                  Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                  Sullivan

                                  Provincial breakdown:

                                  Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                  North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                  Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                  Counties - 2
                                  BOP - 3
                                  Ta$man - 3
                                  Canterbury - 1
                                  Taranaki - 2

                                  Match XXIII

                                  Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                  1 Hodgman
                                  2 Eklund
                                  3 Laulala
                                  4 Tuipulotu
                                  5 Pierce
                                  6 A Ioane
                                  7 Papalii
                                  8 Sotutu

                                  9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                  10 Black
                                  11 Clarke
                                  12 Faiane
                                  13 R Ioane
                                  14 M Telea
                                  15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                  16 Parsons
                                  17 Tu'inukuafe
                                  18 Tu'ungafasi
                                  19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                  20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                  21 Christie
                                  22 Plummer
                                  23 T Tele'a

                                  With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                  Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                  Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                                    Props

                                    Tu'inukuafe
                                    Hodgman
                                    N Mayhew
                                    O Tu'ungafasi
                                    Laulala
                                    Renata

                                    Hookers

                                    Parsons
                                    Eklund
                                    Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                                    Locks

                                    Tuipulotu
                                    Pierce
                                    Goodhue
                                    Cowley-Tuioti
                                    Darry

                                    Loose forwards

                                    Gibson
                                    Hunt
                                    Papalii
                                    Robinson
                                    Sotutu
                                    A Ioane
                                    Riedlinger-Kapa

                                    Halfbacks

                                    Nock
                                    Christie
                                    Ruru

                                    1st Five Eighths

                                    Black
                                    Perofeta
                                    Plummer
                                    Heighton

                                    Midfield

                                    Faiane
                                    T Tele'a
                                    R Ioane
                                    TBC

                                    Outside Backs

                                    Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                                    M Telea
                                    Narawa
                                    AJ Lam
                                    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                    Sullivan

                                    Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                                    That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                                    Out:

                                    Lindenmuth
                                    Mafileo
                                    Carroll
                                    Lamborn
                                    Tucker
                                    Barrett
                                    Marchent
                                    Hyland
                                    Duffie
                                    Page

                                    In:

                                    N Mayhew
                                    Laulala
                                    Darry
                                    Hunt
                                    TBC (midfield)
                                    AJ Lam
                                    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                    Sullivan

                                    Provincial breakdown:

                                    Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                                    North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                                    Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                                    Counties - 2
                                    BOP - 3
                                    Ta$man - 3
                                    Canterbury - 1
                                    Taranaki - 2

                                    Match XXIII

                                    Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                                    1 Hodgman
                                    2 Eklund
                                    3 Laulala
                                    4 Tuipulotu
                                    5 Pierce
                                    6 A Ioane
                                    7 Papalii
                                    8 Sotutu

                                    9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                                    10 Black
                                    11 Clarke
                                    12 Faiane
                                    13 R Ioane
                                    14 M Telea
                                    15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                                    16 Parsons
                                    17 Tu'inukuafe
                                    18 Tu'ungafasi
                                    19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                                    20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                                    21 Christie
                                    22 Plummer
                                    23 T Tele'a

                                    With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                                    Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                                    Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                                    @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                    As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                      As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                      @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                      As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                                      really?

                                      Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                        @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                        As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                                        really?

                                        Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                                        #192

                                        @nzzp i just meant more reliant, didn't say they were shit or anything, plus an injury and it does get thin.

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                                          What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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