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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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    @Stargazer that's bloody good news. They are going well as a unit.

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      https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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      @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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        A sign of the times when a prop is taller than backs and a loose forward.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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          @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

          @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

          If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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            Tim
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            #183

            Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

            Props

            Tu'inukuafe
            Hodgman
            N Mayhew
            O Tu'ungafasi
            Laulala
            Renata

            Hookers

            Parsons
            Eklund
            Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

            Locks

            Tuipulotu
            Pierce
            Goodhue
            Cowley-Tuioti
            Darry

            Loose forwards

            Gibson
            Hunt
            Papalii
            Robinson
            Sotutu
            A Ioane
            Riedlinger-Kapa

            Halfbacks

            Nock
            Christie
            Ruru

            1st Five Eighths

            Black
            Perofeta
            Plummer
            Heighton

            Midfield

            Faiane
            T Tele'a
            R Ioane
            TBC

            Outside Backs

            Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
            M Telea
            Narawa
            AJ Lam
            Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
            Sullivan

            Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

            38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

            Out:

            Lindenmuth
            Mafileo
            Carroll
            Lamborn
            Tucker
            Barrett
            Marchent
            Hyland
            Duffie
            Page

            In:

            N Mayhew
            Laulala
            Darry
            Hunt
            TBC (midfield)
            AJ Lam
            Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
            Sullivan

            Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
            North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
            Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
            Counties - 2
            BOP - 3
            Ta$man - 3
            Canterbury - 1
            Taranaki - 2

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            • TimT Away
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              Tim
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              #184

              Match XXIII

              Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

              1 Hodgman
              2 Eklund
              3 Laulala
              4 Tuipulotu
              5 Pierce
              6 A Ioane
              7 Papalii
              8 Sotutu

              9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
              10 Black
              11 Clarke
              12 Faiane
              13 R Ioane
              14 M Telea
              15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

              16 Parsons
              17 Tu'inukuafe
              18 Tu'ungafasi
              19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
              20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
              21 Christie
              22 Plummer
              23 T Tele'a

              With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

              Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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              • TimT Tim

                Match XXIII

                Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                1 Hodgman
                2 Eklund
                3 Laulala
                4 Tuipulotu
                5 Pierce
                6 A Ioane
                7 Papalii
                8 Sotutu

                9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                10 Black
                11 Clarke
                12 Faiane
                13 R Ioane
                14 M Telea
                15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                16 Parsons
                17 Tu'inukuafe
                18 Tu'ungafasi
                19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                21 Christie
                22 Plummer
                23 T Tele'a

                With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                Match XIII

                Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                • HoorooH Hooroo

                  @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                  Match XIII

                  Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                  Tim
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                  #186

                  @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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                    MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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                      #188

                      Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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                        Tim
                        wrote on last edited by Tim
                        #189

                        With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                        Props

                        Tu'inukuafe
                        Hodgman
                        N Mayhew
                        O Tu'ungafasi
                        Laulala
                        Renata

                        Hookers

                        Parsons
                        Eklund
                        Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                        Locks

                        Tuipulotu
                        Pierce
                        Goodhue
                        Cowley-Tuioti
                        Darry

                        Loose forwards

                        Gibson
                        Hunt
                        Papalii
                        Robinson
                        Sotutu
                        A Ioane
                        Riedlinger-Kapa

                        Halfbacks

                        Nock
                        Christie
                        Ruru

                        1st Five Eighths

                        Black
                        Perofeta
                        Plummer
                        Heighton

                        Midfield

                        Faiane
                        T Tele'a
                        R Ioane
                        TBC

                        Outside Backs

                        Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                        M Telea
                        Narawa
                        AJ Lam
                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                        Sullivan

                        Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                        That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                        Out:

                        Lindenmuth
                        Mafileo
                        Carroll
                        Lamborn
                        Tucker
                        Barrett
                        Marchent
                        Hyland
                        Duffie
                        Page

                        In:

                        N Mayhew
                        Laulala
                        Darry
                        Hunt
                        TBC (midfield)
                        AJ Lam
                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                        Sullivan

                        Provincial breakdown:

                        Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                        North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                        Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                        Counties - 2
                        BOP - 3
                        Ta$man - 3
                        Canterbury - 1
                        Taranaki - 2

                        Match XXIII

                        Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                        1 Hodgman
                        2 Eklund
                        3 Laulala
                        4 Tuipulotu
                        5 Pierce
                        6 A Ioane
                        7 Papalii
                        8 Sotutu

                        9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                        10 Black
                        11 Clarke
                        12 Faiane
                        13 R Ioane
                        14 M Telea
                        15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                        16 Parsons
                        17 Tu'inukuafe
                        18 Tu'ungafasi
                        19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                        20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                        21 Christie
                        22 Plummer
                        23 T Tele'a

                        With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                        Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                        Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                          Props

                          Tu'inukuafe
                          Hodgman
                          N Mayhew
                          O Tu'ungafasi
                          Laulala
                          Renata

                          Hookers

                          Parsons
                          Eklund
                          Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                          Locks

                          Tuipulotu
                          Pierce
                          Goodhue
                          Cowley-Tuioti
                          Darry

                          Loose forwards

                          Gibson
                          Hunt
                          Papalii
                          Robinson
                          Sotutu
                          A Ioane
                          Riedlinger-Kapa

                          Halfbacks

                          Nock
                          Christie
                          Ruru

                          1st Five Eighths

                          Black
                          Perofeta
                          Plummer
                          Heighton

                          Midfield

                          Faiane
                          T Tele'a
                          R Ioane
                          TBC

                          Outside Backs

                          Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                          M Telea
                          Narawa
                          AJ Lam
                          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                          Sullivan

                          Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                          That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                          Out:

                          Lindenmuth
                          Mafileo
                          Carroll
                          Lamborn
                          Tucker
                          Barrett
                          Marchent
                          Hyland
                          Duffie
                          Page

                          In:

                          N Mayhew
                          Laulala
                          Darry
                          Hunt
                          TBC (midfield)
                          AJ Lam
                          Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                          Sullivan

                          Provincial breakdown:

                          Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                          North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                          Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                          Counties - 2
                          BOP - 3
                          Ta$man - 3
                          Canterbury - 1
                          Taranaki - 2

                          Match XXIII

                          Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                          1 Hodgman
                          2 Eklund
                          3 Laulala
                          4 Tuipulotu
                          5 Pierce
                          6 A Ioane
                          7 Papalii
                          8 Sotutu

                          9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                          10 Black
                          11 Clarke
                          12 Faiane
                          13 R Ioane
                          14 M Telea
                          15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                          16 Parsons
                          17 Tu'inukuafe
                          18 Tu'ungafasi
                          19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                          20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                          21 Christie
                          22 Plummer
                          23 T Tele'a

                          With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                          Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                          Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                          @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                          As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                            As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                            @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                            @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                            As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                            really?

                            Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                              @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                              @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                              As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                              really?

                              Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                              #192

                              @nzzp i just meant more reliant, didn't say they were shit or anything, plus an injury and it does get thin.

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                                What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                                  @KiwiMurph Maybe a bit small?

                                  Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u might be on the fringe too?

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                                    Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                    NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                      NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                                      @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                      Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                      NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                                      He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                        Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                        NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                                        He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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                                        @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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                                          @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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