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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    #177

    Funny how since Blues have ditched Hanks they have suddenly started making signings that make sense.

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      #178

      https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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        https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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        #179

        @Stargazer that's bloody good news. They are going well as a unit.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1333214097668591618

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          #180

          @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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          • BovidaeB Offline
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            #181

            A sign of the times when a prop is taller than backs and a loose forward.

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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              Hooroo
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              #182

              @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

              @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

              If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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              • TimT Away
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                Tim
                wrote on last edited by Tim
                #183

                Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

                Props

                Tu'inukuafe
                Hodgman
                N Mayhew
                O Tu'ungafasi
                Laulala
                Renata

                Hookers

                Parsons
                Eklund
                Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                Locks

                Tuipulotu
                Pierce
                Goodhue
                Cowley-Tuioti
                Darry

                Loose forwards

                Gibson
                Hunt
                Papalii
                Robinson
                Sotutu
                A Ioane
                Riedlinger-Kapa

                Halfbacks

                Nock
                Christie
                Ruru

                1st Five Eighths

                Black
                Perofeta
                Plummer
                Heighton

                Midfield

                Faiane
                T Tele'a
                R Ioane
                TBC

                Outside Backs

                Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                M Telea
                Narawa
                AJ Lam
                Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                Sullivan

                Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

                38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                Out:

                Lindenmuth
                Mafileo
                Carroll
                Lamborn
                Tucker
                Barrett
                Marchent
                Hyland
                Duffie
                Page

                In:

                N Mayhew
                Laulala
                Darry
                Hunt
                TBC (midfield)
                AJ Lam
                Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                Sullivan

                Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                Counties - 2
                BOP - 3
                Ta$man - 3
                Canterbury - 1
                Taranaki - 2

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                • TimT Away
                  TimT Away
                  Tim
                  wrote on last edited by Tim
                  #184

                  Match XXIII

                  Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                  1 Hodgman
                  2 Eklund
                  3 Laulala
                  4 Tuipulotu
                  5 Pierce
                  6 A Ioane
                  7 Papalii
                  8 Sotutu

                  9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                  10 Black
                  11 Clarke
                  12 Faiane
                  13 R Ioane
                  14 M Telea
                  15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                  16 Parsons
                  17 Tu'inukuafe
                  18 Tu'ungafasi
                  19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                  20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                  21 Christie
                  22 Plummer
                  23 T Tele'a

                  With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                  Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Match XXIII

                    Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                    1 Hodgman
                    2 Eklund
                    3 Laulala
                    4 Tuipulotu
                    5 Pierce
                    6 A Ioane
                    7 Papalii
                    8 Sotutu

                    9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                    10 Black
                    11 Clarke
                    12 Faiane
                    13 R Ioane
                    14 M Telea
                    15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                    16 Parsons
                    17 Tu'inukuafe
                    18 Tu'ungafasi
                    19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                    20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                    21 Christie
                    22 Plummer
                    23 T Tele'a

                    With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

                    Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

                    HoorooH Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #185

                    @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                    Match XIII

                    Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                      @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                      Match XIII

                      Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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                      TimT Away
                      Tim
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #186

                      @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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                      • TimT Away
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                        Tim
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                        #187

                        MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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                          Tim
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                          #188

                          Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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                          • TimT Away
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                            Tim
                            wrote on last edited by Tim
                            #189

                            With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                            Props

                            Tu'inukuafe
                            Hodgman
                            N Mayhew
                            O Tu'ungafasi
                            Laulala
                            Renata

                            Hookers

                            Parsons
                            Eklund
                            Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                            Locks

                            Tuipulotu
                            Pierce
                            Goodhue
                            Cowley-Tuioti
                            Darry

                            Loose forwards

                            Gibson
                            Hunt
                            Papalii
                            Robinson
                            Sotutu
                            A Ioane
                            Riedlinger-Kapa

                            Halfbacks

                            Nock
                            Christie
                            Ruru

                            1st Five Eighths

                            Black
                            Perofeta
                            Plummer
                            Heighton

                            Midfield

                            Faiane
                            T Tele'a
                            R Ioane
                            TBC

                            Outside Backs

                            Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                            M Telea
                            Narawa
                            AJ Lam
                            Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                            Sullivan

                            Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                            That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                            Out:

                            Lindenmuth
                            Mafileo
                            Carroll
                            Lamborn
                            Tucker
                            Barrett
                            Marchent
                            Hyland
                            Duffie
                            Page

                            In:

                            N Mayhew
                            Laulala
                            Darry
                            Hunt
                            TBC (midfield)
                            AJ Lam
                            Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                            Sullivan

                            Provincial breakdown:

                            Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                            North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                            Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                            Counties - 2
                            BOP - 3
                            Ta$man - 3
                            Canterbury - 1
                            Taranaki - 2

                            Match XXIII

                            Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                            1 Hodgman
                            2 Eklund
                            3 Laulala
                            4 Tuipulotu
                            5 Pierce
                            6 A Ioane
                            7 Papalii
                            8 Sotutu

                            9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                            10 Black
                            11 Clarke
                            12 Faiane
                            13 R Ioane
                            14 M Telea
                            15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                            16 Parsons
                            17 Tu'inukuafe
                            18 Tu'ungafasi
                            19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                            20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                            21 Christie
                            22 Plummer
                            23 T Tele'a

                            With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                            Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                            Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

                              Props

                              Tu'inukuafe
                              Hodgman
                              N Mayhew
                              O Tu'ungafasi
                              Laulala
                              Renata

                              Hookers

                              Parsons
                              Eklund
                              Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

                              Locks

                              Tuipulotu
                              Pierce
                              Goodhue
                              Cowley-Tuioti
                              Darry

                              Loose forwards

                              Gibson
                              Hunt
                              Papalii
                              Robinson
                              Sotutu
                              A Ioane
                              Riedlinger-Kapa

                              Halfbacks

                              Nock
                              Christie
                              Ruru

                              1st Five Eighths

                              Black
                              Perofeta
                              Plummer
                              Heighton

                              Midfield

                              Faiane
                              T Tele'a
                              R Ioane
                              TBC

                              Outside Backs

                              Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
                              M Telea
                              Narawa
                              AJ Lam
                              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                              Sullivan

                              Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

                              That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

                              Out:

                              Lindenmuth
                              Mafileo
                              Carroll
                              Lamborn
                              Tucker
                              Barrett
                              Marchent
                              Hyland
                              Duffie
                              Page

                              In:

                              N Mayhew
                              Laulala
                              Darry
                              Hunt
                              TBC (midfield)
                              AJ Lam
                              Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                              Sullivan

                              Provincial breakdown:

                              Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
                              North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
                              Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
                              Counties - 2
                              BOP - 3
                              Ta$man - 3
                              Canterbury - 1
                              Taranaki - 2

                              Match XXIII

                              Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

                              1 Hodgman
                              2 Eklund
                              3 Laulala
                              4 Tuipulotu
                              5 Pierce
                              6 A Ioane
                              7 Papalii
                              8 Sotutu

                              9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
                              10 Black
                              11 Clarke
                              12 Faiane
                              13 R Ioane
                              14 M Telea
                              15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

                              16 Parsons
                              17 Tu'inukuafe
                              18 Tu'ungafasi
                              19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
                              20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
                              21 Christie
                              22 Plummer
                              23 T Tele'a

                              With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

                              Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

                              Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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                              #190

                              @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                              As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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                                #191

                                @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                                really?

                                Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

                                  @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

                                  As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

                                  really?

                                  Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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                                  taniwharugby
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                                  #192

                                  @nzzp i just meant more reliant, didn't say they were shit or anything, plus an injury and it does get thin.

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                                    What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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                                      #194

                                      @KiwiMurph Maybe a bit small?

                                      Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u might be on the fringe too?

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                                        Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                        NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                          NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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                                          @Tim said in Blues 2021:

                                          Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

                                          NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

                                          He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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